Impact Fix
The Other Game - Putting
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01-18-2006, 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Trig
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Bagger,
As far as I'm concerned you are putting great now. Good line and speed control.
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You know me buddy. It ain't over till I'm rolling 8 footers in the cup on a constant basis. And most importantly, I know exactly why I'm rolling them so well.
So I'm a long way off.
Now back to that impact fix vs. address question. Does it apply in putting?
I believe it can, especially on the shoulder stroke because it is a swingers procedure, there is a slight amount of drag and lag. So impact hands will look slightly different than address hands.
What do y'all think?
AND WHERE IS VJ!!!??? He better have a good excuse for being late to the party! 
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01-19-2006, 10:17 AM
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Kids with sore throats, getting the putting arc booth ready for the show, and 8 people daily with throwaway is where I have been. I feel lost if I don't get the chance to come see you guys and I refuse to leave until I have thrown light this impact vs address stuff.
In the shoulder only stroke the pivot is zeroed out and the shoulders move only because they are a part of the power package. Impact and address match. The only difference could, but should not be, the height of the putter at address and impact. If you ground the putter then a difference will be found, however if you sole the putter you are in good shape.
Since the pivot is zeroed out there is no weight shift or axis tilt. Because the hands are frozen there is no bending or cockig.
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01-19-2006, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by vj
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...If you ground the putter then a difference will be found, however if you sole the putter you are in good shape...
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This may be a dumb question but what's the difference between "ground the putter" and "sole the putter"?
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01-19-2006, 01:01 PM
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Grounding would be having the ground,turf, holding the weight of the putter- If you Sole the putter you are holding the weight of the putter in the hands with no help from the ground.
Feeling the weight of the putter (club) in the hands assures soling, while being haphazard and letting the putter rest on the ground before start up would be grounding.
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01-19-2006, 01:47 PM
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One More...
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Originally Posted by vj
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Kids with sore throats, getting the putting arc booth ready for the show, and 8 people daily with throwaway.
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Sung to the tune of the 12 days of Christmas...  . I can definately relate...
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Originally Posted by vj
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I feel lost if I don't get the chance to come see you guys and I refuse to leave until I have thrown light this impact vs address stuff.
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We are lost without you! Even though there's that green guy lurking about.
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Originally Posted by vj
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In the shoulder only stroke the pivot is zeroed out and the shoulders move only because they are a part of the power package. Impact and address match. The only difference could, but should not be, the height of the putter at address and impact. If you ground the putter then a difference will be found, however if you sole the putter you are in good shape.
Since the pivot is zeroed out there is no weight shift or axis tilt. Because the hands are frozen there is no bending or cockig.
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Thanks VJ - Frozen hands answers my question.
Are there any putting stroke procedures where impact fix differs from address?
Thanks,
Bagger
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01-21-2006, 09:33 AM
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Absolutely.
You can float load the putter anytime you want to. It gets really powerful really quick but a player can use a shoulder only procedure with a float load. A lot of people called this a "pop" stroke back in the days of black and white television.
But Homer didn't......
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