Having experimented with paddle-Wheel motion vs. pure Angled Hinging as per 10-10-C, I can see why Homer said that it is superior procedure(1-F) and greatly simplifies Hitting (10-19-A). When I videoed my motion last week I had significantly more shaft lean with the no-roll of Angled Hinge Action than paddle-Wheel motion. I also had much better structure at the Top. I know that it shouldn't matter, but for me it does.
Johngolf33,
The real key - is what do you see as the paddle-wheel motion?
Johngolf33,
The real key - is what do you see as the paddle-wheel motion?
I could be wrong but my understanding of paddle-Wheel motion is that of the old river boat steamers where the rear paddle-wheel only revolved methodically. As I apply this thinking to golf I would say that the entire club (shaft, face and head) rotates constantly from Top to both arms straight.
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Last edited by johngolf33 : 02-10-2006 at 10:52 AM.
Horizontal hinge the face of the club lays open on the inclined plane. Therefore the club face must constantly close through impact to follow through (like a paddlewheel). Angled hinge the club is not open at the top = no paddlewheel motion.
Easier to visualize if you get out the racquets and try the horz./angled hinges.
Horizontal hinge the face of the club lays open on the inclined plane. Therefore the club face must constantly close through impact to follow through (like a paddlewheel). Angled hinge the club is not open at the top = no paddlewheel motion.
Easier to visualize if you get out the racquets and try the horz./angled hinges.
My understanding of Angled Hinging is that the club face looks closed at the Top and during the downswing there is a no-roll feel all the way down plane to both arms straight. Isn't this what Homer is referring to in 10-10-C when he said it greatly simplifies Hitting?
My understanding of Angled Hinging is that the club face looks closed at the Top and during the downswing there is a no-roll feel all the way down plane to both arms straight. Isn't this what Homer is referring to in 10-10-C when he said it greatly simplifies Hitting?
It's the flat left wrist and hinge action that controls (superior and simplifying), but it's the right arm that causes.
I could be wrong but my understanding of paddle-Wheel motion is that of the old river boat steamers where the rear paddle-wheel only revolved methodically. As I apply this thinking to golf I would say that the entire club (shaft, face and head) rotates constantly from Top to both arms straight.
Johngolf33,
Old River Boat- exactly correct.
I think you missed Homer's application to the golf swing though- or at least your answer is a little vague in that regard.
More later.
Paddle wheel references- and writing clarity/ability
Paddlewheel references:
Index: Page 240 “Paddlewheel 10-10-C”
Glossary:
Flat and Vertical Left Wrist- example left hand karate chop
Mechanical- The Paddlewheel blade relationship as vertical to its axis of rotation (crosswise) and vertical to its plane of motion (lengthwise).
Golf- Positioning the Left Wrist to be vertical to its Left shoulder Axis and to its Associated Plane during Impact.
10-24-E Automatic Snap Release……….The Paddlewheel Action of Angled Hinging (10-10-C) or the Throw Out Action of Accumulator #3 (6-B-3-0), if unhampered, will whip the Hands and the Clubface into impact alignment per 7-23.
10-19-0 Last paragraph
Hinge action does NOT differentiate Hitting and Swinging. All are interchangeable- with reservations. Hitters using Horizontal Hinging must consciously resist the tendency of Right Arm Paddlewheel Action toward Angled Hinging. Swingers using Angled Hinging must consciously resist the tendency of Centrifugal Force toward Horizontal Hinging.
10-10-C Angled Hinge Action……This simultaneous “Closing and Layback” procedure holds the Flat Left Wrist vertical to the Inclined Plane (2-D, 2-G). This is identical to the Paddlewheel motion of the straightening right arm but is a superior procedure (1-F). It greatly simplifies Hitting (10-19-A).
10-2-D
The palm of the Right Hand moves toward Impact exactly like a paddle-wheel rotating On Plane- no separate Rolling Motion until after Impact. See 10-10-C.
7-20- 7th edition
Paragraph 2- 1st to last sentence- starting at remember- “Remember, only right elbow feel- neither triceps- or lag pressure- can safely monitor the paddlewheel motion of the straightening right arm for proper clubface closing motion.”
7-18
The Paddlewheel action of the straightening Right Elbow (10-10-C) initiates and sustains the #3 Accumulator Hand Motion (4-D-0) until the Both Arms Straight and zero #3 Accumulator position of Full Extension.
6-B-1-0
Active or Passive, the straightening Right Elbow with its Paddlewheel Action, powers, guides and regulates the #3 Accumulator Motion (seven-eighteen) but not the actual Clubface aligning (1-F).
2-G 2nd paragraph
These motions also duplicate the motions of the paddles of a paddlewheel rotating around an axis vertical to one of the three Basic Planes. And an equivalent term could be “Clubface Paddlewheel Action” executed as a Left Wrist Paddlewheel Motion.
This gives us some information to work with but before we dig deeper- just a comment/guess on the man and the issues of writing the book.
The amount of effort, intelligence and focus required to produce a piece of work such as the Golfing Machine is enormous- and that focus for accomplishment doesn’t leave room for other items/focuses/skills, that’s really a comment on his intellectual brilliance and the cause of the “blank spots”.
Second, no one would or could help him much- so many areas that should have been accomplished were not, just due to a lack of time due to the obsession and amount of time the researching took.
Finally, there may have been feedback that would have been good but Homer had some particular issue that made him decide not to make an apparent “good” change, i.e. money, etc. According to himself, he was really and primarily a Researcher- not a Teacher, not a Writer, not a Publisher- so he was a great Researcher but not a very good writer- (my opinion). All of the above created this “problem” of the Golfing Machine- on the one hand it’s so precise, detailed, all the puzzle pieces fit (isn’t that great!)- on the other hand- he doesn’t define all his terms, he doesn’t identify his resources as is a common scientific protocol, and in referring to any particular item such as “Paddlewheel”, he changes the context depending on the discussion without clearly identifying the different context- “He expects you to understand the principle i.e. of Paddlewheel and then apply that principle in any particular context i.e. left wrist, right forearm, etc. Whether the expectation for you to apply that principle was conscious (he thought you could do it) or subconscious (he understood the context himself-“well of course” and he didn’t even think about whether others would understand the change in context- from one section to the other), I have no idea.
So I better stop rambling and just complain at this point- Starting at the index on page 240 – for Paddlewheel he has one reference! 10-10-C
Maybe it’s just my obsessive personality but I would have wanted to be thorough (hey I may have missed some- add’em on if I did) and listed the following with their corresponding paragraphs and line numbers (which I didn’t list here)
2-G 2nd paragraph, lines …….
6-B-1-0
7-18
7-20
10-2-D
10-10-C
10-19-0 last paragraph
10-24-E
Glossary- Flat Left Wrist
Will all of those references be in the 7th edition- no. Would or could they help the reader- I think yes.
2nd, I would have defined the term under PaddleWheel in the Glossary and then identified the different contexts that it is used in the book i.e. 1) 2-G left wrist, 2) 10-10-C 1st sentence left wrist, 2nd sentence on-plane right forearm, etc, etc
The whole point comes down to clarity- and the problem why this information has not and will not get out as quickly as it could have. In this Paddlewheel example (see above sections from the book)- he intermingles Right Elbow, Right Arm, etc etc creating confusion for the reader. Could it all be written alot clearer- absolutely! Could it be so much more powerful- ABSOLUTELY!
Feel free to jump in and comment- when I get time I plan to post again in regards to clarifying paddlewheel – even though with all of these posts that everyone has already posted, and this information, it may be obvious by now. And then directly respond to 10-10-C in regards to what it is saying. Plus responding to any other posts.
Glossary:
Flat and Vertical Left Wrist- example left hand karate chop
Mechanical- The Paddlewheel blade relationship as vertical to its axis of rotation (crosswise) and vertical to its plane of motion (lengthwise).
Golf- Positioning the Left Wrist to be vertical to its Left shoulder Axis and to its Associated Plane during Impact.
10-24-E Automatic Snap Release……….The Paddlewheel Action of Angled Hinging (10-10-C) or the Throw Out Action of Accumulator #3 (6-B-3-0), if unhampered, will whip the Hands and the Clubface into impact alignment per 7-23.
10-19-0 Last paragraph
Hinge action does NOT differentiate Hitting and Swinging. All are interchangeable- with reservations. Hitters using Horizontal Hinging must consciously resist the tendency of Right Arm Paddlewheel Action toward Angled Hinging. Swingers using Angled Hinging must consciously resist the tendency of Centrifugal Force toward Horizontal Hinging.
10-10-C Angled Hinge Action……This simultaneous “Closing and Layback” procedure holds the Flat Left Wrist vertical to the Inclined Plane (2-D, 2-G). This is identical to the Paddlewheel motion of the straightening right arm but is a superior procedure (1-F). It greatly simplifies Hitting (10-19-A).
10-2-D
The palm of the Right Hand moves toward Impact exactly like a paddle-wheel rotating On Plane- no separate Rolling Motion until after Impact. See 10-10-C.
7-20- 7th edition
Paragraph 2- 1st to last sentence- starting at remember- “Remember, only right elbow feel- neither triceps- or lag pressure- can safely monitor the paddlewheel motion of the straightening right arm for proper clubface closing motion.”
7-18
The Paddlewheel action of the straightening Right Elbow (10-10-C) initiates and sustains the #3 Accumulator Hand Motion (4-D-0) until the Both Arms Straight and zero #3 Accumulator position of Full Extension.
6-B-1-0
Active or Passive, the straightening Right Elbow with its Paddlewheel Action, powers, guides and regulates the #3 Accumulator Motion (seven-eighteen) but not the actual Clubface aligning (1-F).
2-G 2nd paragraph
These motions also duplicate the motions of the paddles of a paddlewheel rotating around an axis vertical to one of the three Basic Planes. And an equivalent term could be “Clubface Paddlewheel Action” executed as a Left Wrist Paddlewheel Motion.
This gives us some information to work with but before we dig deeper- just a comment/guess on the man and the issues of writing the book.
The amount of effort, intelligence and focus required to produce a piece of work such as the Golfing Machine is enormous- and that focus for accomplishment doesn’t leave room for other items/focuses/skills, that’s really a comment on his intellectual brilliance and the cause of the “blank spots”.
Second, no one would or could help him much- so many areas that should have been accomplished were not, just due to a lack of time due to the obsession and amount of time the researching took.
Finally, there may have been feedback that would have been good but Homer had some particular issue that made him decide not to make an apparent “good” change, i.e. money, etc. According to himself, he was really and primarily a Researcher- not a Teacher, not a Writer, not a Publisher- so he was a great Researcher but not a very good writer- (my opinion). All of the above created this “problem” of the Golfing Machine- on the one hand it’s so precise, detailed, all the puzzle pieces fit (isn’t that great!)- on the other hand- he doesn’t define all his terms, he doesn’t identify his resources as is a common scientific protocol, and in referring to any particular item such as “Paddlewheel”, he changes the context depending on the discussion without clearly identifying the different context- “He expects you to understand the principle i.e. of Paddlewheel and then apply that principle in any particular context i.e. left wrist, right forearm, etc. Whether the expectation for you to apply that principle was conscious (he thought you could do it) or subconscious (he understood the context himself-“well of course” and he didn’t even think about whether others would understand the change in context- from one section to the other), I have no idea.
So I better stop rambling and just complain at this point- Starting at the index on page 240 – for Paddlewheel he has one reference! 10-10-C
Maybe it’s just my obsessive personality but I would have wanted to be thorough (hey I may have missed some- add’em on if I did) and listed the following with their corresponding paragraphs and line numbers (which I didn’t list here)
2-G 2nd paragraph, lines …….
6-B-1-0
7-18
7-20
10-2-D
10-10-C
10-19-0 last paragraph
10-24-E
Glossary- Flat Left Wrist
Will all of those references be in the 7th edition- no. Would or could they help the reader- I think yes.
2nd, I would have defined the term under PaddleWheel in the Glossary and then identified the different contexts that it is used in the book i.e. 1) 2-G left wrist, 2) 10-10-C 1st sentence left wrist, 2nd sentence on-plane right forearm, etc, etc
The whole point comes down to clarity- and the problem why this information has not and will not get out as quickly as it could have. In this Paddlewheel example (see above sections from the book)- he intermingles Right Elbow, Right Arm, etc etc creating confusion for the reader. Could it all be written alot clearer- absolutely! Could it be so much more powerful- ABSOLUTELY!
Feel free to jump in and comment- when I get time I plan to post again in regards to clarifying paddlewheel – even though with all of these posts that everyone has already posted, and this information, it may be obvious by now. And then directly respond to 10-10-C in regards to what it is saying. Plus responding to any other posts.
Hybrid Mode
