In both pics, the yellow line is the Turned Shoulder Plane (from ball through Top-of-stroke right shoulder position). Pink line = Elbow Plane (from ball through Address right elbow position). Blue line is clubshaft angle at Address.
Toms is a little underplane at Impact BTW.
Last edited by birdie_man : 02-22-2006 at 10:03 PM.
In both pics, the yellow line is the Turned Shoulder Plane (from ball through Top-of-stroke right shoulder position). Pink line = Elbow Plane (from ball through Address right elbow position). Blue line is clubshaft angle at Address.
Ah!, thanks Bird Man (are you also a Coltrane fan). Anyway, I like the plane VJ is comming down on much better than that of Toms (for me).
Its strikes me that Hogan, Player, etc were on an even flatter plane than the pictures shown here (not by a lot, but, still flatter). Would theres not be called elbow plane. If not, is anyone on the elbow plane?
A true jazz original who took "Giant Steps" forward.
Hmmmmmm....actually "Giant Steps" was the last album that featured Coltrane playing in a be-bop style (high level of course)....look to Miles Davis's "Kind of Blue" to Coltrane's transition to modal improvisation and the beginning of his Giant Steps...
DG
Last edited by Delaware Golf : 02-22-2006 at 11:50 PM.
Hogan "looked" flatter because he had SUPER FLEXIBLE wrists that gave him a whole lot of wrist cock with very very little arm swing.
Also, i'd also recommend to learn how to trace a straight plane line on whatever plane you naturally swing on. If you are trying to change what plane angle you swing on just "cuz" you will ruin your swing long term.
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I think most shift to the turned shoulder plane or the squared shoulder plane, either with a single from elbow upward to the 'shoulders' or even double returning back to elbow. How the hands are set at address will help your chosen swing plane, too.
I often hear that Watson "single planed" on one of the shoulder planes but watch the vids (although time changes people swings), he started on elbow and single shifted (quickly) to the shoulder, turned , I think.
Don't get trapped into thinking a shift is no-no. If it feels right, do it.
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