A Question for Yoda, regarding Homer and Shaft Flex

[bambam]

IMO....Rifles suck.....They play very stiff and quite inconsistent...

I have rifles and am not a fan of how they feel; thinking about trading in the clubs because of the shafts, actually. That being said, I know others who seem to like them.

[ram1golf]

Has anyone tried Tom Wishon clubs? If you have, what do you think?

[ThinkingPlus]

Has anyone tried Tom Wishon clubs? If you have, what do you think?

I play a full set of Wishon clubs. The only club I don't like all that much is the driver. Tom's drivers are mostly setup for people who need help getting a higher launch angle. I don't really need that. The fairway woods are awesome. I play the 515GRTs in both 3W and 5W. I shafted them with Aldila NVS75 in stiff flex. They are easy to get up off the deck and hit it a long way.

I also play Wishon hybrids for my 3I and 4I replacements. Very iron like club and easy to hit. I have these shafted with Grafalloy Blue Pro Launch hybrid shaft in stiff flex. They are still a little soft, but that makes it easy to hit'em high.

I play the Wishon 550s in my irons with Harrison Premier Lite 85 steel shafts in regular flex. Nice lightweight steel shaft. I play the blades up to 6I and the 5I is the cavity back. These are solid irons. They are very controllable and not hard to hit for blades. Trajectory is medium for me.

Finally I went with a 52* / 58* wedges to go along with my PW. I picked a 56* / 60* of different styles to get the wider sole I was looking for and had Wishon cherry pick / bend to get me the loft I wanted (they are very good about that). Both clubs have smallish bounce (8*), but a wider sole. This is a nice compromise that lets me play'em from the sand as well as the fairway.

All in all Wishon's clubs are very high quality, the service is great, and the price is reasonable. Everything in my bag at the moment is a long term keeper except the driver.

[12 piece bucket]

Wishon has been described as the smartest man in golf. He's got a fantastic book Search for the Perfect Club. Great read and very good information. Don't have any of his sticks but you can bet your petutie that whatever he puts out is good.

[efnef]

I have two sets of irons with the same heads. One has Apex 3 shafts, factory stock. I just had another set reshafted with Flighted Rifle 4.5 shafts. I'm going to alternate them this year and see which I like better.

[BlackjackNY]

Wishon has been described as the smartest man in golf. He's got a fantastic book Search for the Perfect Club. Great read and very good information. Don't have any of his sticks but you can bet your petutie that whatever he puts out is good.

I read the book in one sitting today at work. Here's a quiz for y'all:

If Mr. Woods were to put a ladies flex shaft in his driver, how much would that shaft increase his launch angle?

[birdie_man]

Just a guess....would it maybe decrease it? Cause the shaft would never unload....???

[BlackjackNY]

Just a guess....would it maybe decrease it? Cause the shaft would never unload....???

Nope. It would increase it just 2-3 degrees. You'd think it would be so much more.

Regarding unloading, Wishon says:

"When we release the wrist-cock on the downswing, the arms begin to slow down, and the club begins to speed up...arms lose energy, club speeds up."

There's a lot of other fascinating stuff. Myths regarding loading and unloading the shaft...it's a great read.

[SwingNorthtoSouth]

Zero, Tiger would snap it.

I read the book in one sitting today at work. Here's a quiz for y'all:

If Mr. Woods were to put a ladies flex shaft in his driver, how much would that shaft increase his launch angle?

[golfguru]

I once asked Tom about hitting vs swinging. Also release types.
All stress the clubshaft different ways. Tom now has some of that in his fitting program but still believes in the old ball flight laws. That is a shame and shows there is still a ways to go for the average fitter to improve the tools in hand.

Rifles - years into this game and I do not ever stock them.

"Play the lightest shaft that you can control". Note not "play the lightest most flexible shaft that you can control" which is the industry catch cry. Why? Coz too many fitted players end up way too whippy. But for an average Joe, better too whippy than too stiff.

I just pulled apart a so called fitted HG club for a client today. Fitter had to have been on drugs. Builder must have had a quota for glue that had expired. I fix more HGs than almost any other brand of 'fitted clubs'. Not having a go at HGs just stating what I see. Over priced and the fitting system is still in the stone age. Most fitters are not TGM pro's and so just are ice cream salesmen...unlike the fellows who run this site
If you are going to get HGs, go there or do your dough!