How Flat is Flat?
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03-20-2006, 03:31 PM
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The left wristcock motion is a perpendicular motion from the impact alignments (flying wedges)- up and down. Therefore the more turned that the grip becomes - the more that the wristcock motion turns into a wristbend but its still geometrically flat to the plane of the left wrist motion (left flying wedge). It is perhaps most preferable to have the grip set as such that the wristcock is truely flat so that it can be monitored easier.
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03-20-2006, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Mathew
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The left wristcock motion is a perpendicular motion from the impact alignments (flying wedges)- up and down. Therefore the more turned that the grip becomes - the more that the wristcock motion turns into a wristbend but its still geometrically flat to the plane of the left wrist motion (left flying wedge). It is perhaps most preferable to have the grip set as such that the wristcock is truely flat so that it can be monitored easier.
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Precisely. Good post.
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03-20-2006, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Mathew
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The left wristcock motion is a perpendicular motion from the impact alignments (flying wedges)- up and down. Therefore the more turned that the grip becomes - the more that the wristcock motion turns into a wristbend but its still geometrically flat to the plane of the left wrist motion (left flying wedge). It is perhaps most preferable to have the grip set as such that the wristcock is truely flat so that it can be monitored easier.
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Nicely put. Is the left wrist bend (visual bend) at the top or end then comparatively the same as it appears if you cocked the left wrist in the impact fix location (or when the left arm-club flying wedge is intact)? |
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03-20-2006, 07:34 PM
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With golfers of a 10 handicap and higher (more or less), I have had very little success with anything but visually flat. Even with strong-ish grips.
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03-21-2006, 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by brianmanzella
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With golfers of a 10 handicap and higher (more or less), I have had very little success with anything but visually flat. Even with strong-ish grips.
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03-21-2006, 06:44 AM
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Doing it right....
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Originally Posted by brianmanzella
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With golfers of a 10 handicap and higher (more or less), I have had very little success with anything but visually flat. Even with strong-ish grips.
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The flying wedges maintain the correct impact alignments during the stroke. If you teach someone to change these alignments during the stroke it isn't 'doing it right' by Brian Manzella, its 'doing it wrong' by Brian Manzella. I don't care if its a 10 handicapper or a golfer who's average drive goes 30 yards - The only shortcuts are more and more know how. The flying wedges is a piece of that know how. |
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03-21-2006, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Mathew
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The flying wedges maintain the correct impact alignments during the stroke. If you teach someone to change these alignments during the stroke it isn't 'doing it right' by Brian Manzella, its 'doing it wrong' by Brian Manzella. I don't care if its a 10 handicapper or a golfer who's average drive goes 30 yards - The only shortcuts are more and more know how. The flying wedges is a piece of that know how.
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But if it works....is it really doing it wrong? |
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03-21-2006, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by birdie_man
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But if it works....is it really doing it wrong?
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Thats the problem it doesn't work....
I thought the goal was to simplify motion, not complicate it... |
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03-21-2006, 03:36 PM
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Mathew,
Yes, I understand. I use both Horizontal and angled Hinging effectively. I swing. My confusion may exist in the definitions of weak and strong. I agree with strong having the pressure points on the aft side of the shaft and pressure toward the angle of approach. Anything left of that is weak. But let me ask you this: In a strong single action grip, can there be a space between the left thumb and left forefinger? Your answer may solve all my questions. Traditional (less knowledgable) Teaching says yes, but maybe TGM says not necessary but I don't know. Can you answer this?
Also it says somewhere that the #2 pressure point replaces the #3 pressure point in a weak single action grip. Did I say that right. When I get home tonight I'll find the reference.
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03-21-2006, 03:55 PM
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I understand why it's important to maintain the Wedges....
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But.....Brian said it works for most of his students.....so I believe him.
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....he's got a few more lessons under his belt than you or I.
Maybe he'll elaborate more....if there's more elaborating that can be done.
Last edited by birdie_man : 03-21-2006 at 03:58 PM.
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