Annikan Skywalker - Downstroke Sequence
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03-24-2006, 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by noproblemos
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But isn't the right arm supposed to be rolled in Horizontal Hinging? Otherwise, how can the clubface have moved horizontally.
BTW, how are Hinging and Swivel different? Are you saying that Swivel means the "INDEPENDENT motion of the left forearm...not the entire left arm wedge"?
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2-G HINGE MOTION The Hands can be educated to reproduce them by holding at least one Hand vertical or parallel to the corresponding Basic Plane. These motions also duplicate the motions of paddles of a paddlewheel rotating around its axis vertical to one of the three Basic Planes. And an equivalent could be “Clubface Paddlewheel Action” executed as a Left Wrist Paddlewheel Motion. Thus, though some procedures may cause the Clubface to “Close” in relation to the Plane Line, none will be an actual “Roll” of the Hands. See 2-C and 6-B-3-0. There is, however, the “Release Roll” (Swivel) which is a true rotation of the Hands into Impact alignments by Accumulator #3 with (10-18-A only). After the selected Hinge Action has been executed, the Swivel is again useful for Snap Rolling the hands into their On Plane Condition for the Finish (8-12). That is the Geometry of Hinging.
4-C-3 ROLLED The Wrist is ROLLED when it is rotated to the left. This moves the Wrist backe to the VERTICAL condition from the TURNED condition. The Wrist should never normally ROLL beyond the VERTICAL condition during the Release. But the Roll may be varied to suit the purpose at hand. It may begin early or late, behind or ahead of normal position, or even be left in the Turned position until after Impact. See 4-D-0.
HERE'S A FANTASTIC EXPLANATION BY COLLARDS ON THE INTRACACIES OF HINGE ACTION AND SWIVEL I have this tatoo'd on my forehead.
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Originally Posted by Dr. Collard Greens
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For example...
Stand erect with your arms hanging normally at your sides. The dial of your wristwatch faces west. Leaving your arms at your sides, turn your body to the right. Note that the dial now faces north. Did you turn your hand? No. Is it in a turned condition? Yes. Why? Because that what happens when the arms and hands maintain their natural relationship to the turning body.
Now extend your left arm in front of your shoulder and parallel to the ground. Point your left forefinger straight ahead in a mock 'shooting a pistol' configuration. Now swing your arm horizontally to the right as if you were going to 'shoot' a target opposite your right shoulder. Lower your hand to waist high. Is it in a turned condition? Yes. Did you turn it? No. This is the natural action produced by the swinging arm.
In both cases, the 'turn' was gradual and not completed until the movement itself was completed. Per 2-G, neither was an actual 'turn' of the hand, nor would its reverse motion be a true 'roll.' The left arm and hand has simply swung like a gate from its hinges and remained vertical (perpendicular) to the ground. The identical motion on an inclined plane appears to turn and roll. In reality, it is merely the Hinge Action, that is, the left wrist staying perpendicular to the horizontal plane. In other words, the wrist turns...but it is not turned (independently of the turning body or swinging arms).
However, the Swivel Action is a true rotation independent of the natural motion of the body and arms. For example, in the above drill, instead of your left wrist remaining vertical (perpendicular) to the ground as it swings first to the right and then back to the left, it would immediately twist palm down to the ground. That is an independent swivel. The same is true on the return move wherein the hand remains palm down until the arm passes the line-of-sight and twists back to its beginning 'perpendicular to the ground' alignment.
It may help to think of an actual hinge: the blade simply moves in a circle around the pin and remains perpendicular to its plane of motion. The movement is a structured, mechanical rotation of the blade about its hinge pin axis. At no time, however, does the blade itself actually twist. Now, with a pair of pliers, you could physically take hold of the blade and twist it, but in so doing, you would bend it -- the blade would no longer be perpendicular to its plane of motion -- and perhaps even tear it from its pin. In either event, the hinge action will have been destroyed.
This is what happens when you twist your left wrist -- to the right or to the left. You have a Swivel Action. In G.O.L.F., it is the Swingers Standard Left Wrist Action (10-18-A) -- Start Up and Release Swivels -- to effect On Plane Clubhead Control on the Backstroke and to increase the Lag of the #3 Accumulator into Impact. The Finish Swivel is used by both Swingers and Hitters to complete the Stroke after the Follow-Through (Both Arms Straight position). At no time does either Swinger or Hitter use Swivel Action to control the Clubface Alignment during Impact.
That is the realm of the Hinge Action.
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To take Doc Collards example a step further . . . Get your little gun finger pointing straight ahead. Now rotate your left palm up to face the SKY. Then drop it down on the Inclined Plane. There you can see what INDEPENDENT ROTATION OF THE LEFT FOREARM does for you and why as a result things be come erratic. You have OVER-ROLLED. Hinge Motion is consistent. Independent rotation of the LEFT FOREARM is fleeting. REMEMBER it is a LEFT ARM FLYING WEDGE not a LEFT FOREARM FLYING WEDGE. The whole Wedge executes the Hinge Motion and the left forearm executes the Swivel back up the Inclined Plane.
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03-24-2006, 10:24 AM
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A Hall of Fame post combined with a Hall of Famer ....Bravo...well done and well explained....There is a difference between Turned and Turning....The entire Arm vs. the lower arm....Nice!!!
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03-24-2006, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by annikan skywalker
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A Hall of Fame post combined with a Hall of Famer ....Bravo...well done and well explained....There is a difference between Turned and Turning....The entire Arm vs. the lower arm....Nice!!!
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No . . . YOU'RE the MAN!!!! It's in them purdee pictures of your swing. Pictures worth a thousand words PUDGE.
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03-24-2006, 10:41 AM
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Here's proof positive that you can teach TGM without every using it's language... Billy Herring - 14 Years old...12 minute lesson Monday thru Friday before he leaves for school! He's a Champion..He has a Vision...He told Mike Holder of Oklahoma State this summer at the OSU Golf Camp.."Coach I'm comin to OSU"...Coach Holder probably thought "Okay?"...then several days later..this boy was medalist shooting ...I believe a couple under...Guess he can back it up!!!
Billy Herring

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03-24-2006, 11:10 AM
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2nd picture, bottom row, IMPACT-------awesome.
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03-24-2006, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by annikan skywalker
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Billy Herring
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And check out Frame #7 (third on bottom row)...
In Zone #1 (Body Control), look at those Feet and their rock solid Balance. Almost as if they were bolted to the floor and yet with sufficient freedom ('between the soles' Loading) to accomodate the Standard Knee Action and its support of the Downstroke Hip and Shoulder Turns. Also note the Centered Head Position making possible a Centered Arc. All this while achieving the Body Power (2-M-4) of the Standard Pivot.
In Zone #2 (Club Control), look at those Arms. Full Extension Down Plane into the Follow-through.
Finally, in Zone #3 (Ball Control), check out Billy's Flat and Vertical Left Wrist and its beautifully executed Horizontal Hinge Action.
There's a little Bobbing (3-F-7-C) going on during the Downstroke as the Head seeks its Impact Fix Location, but nothing that many great players from Nelson to Trevino to Woods couldn't live with.
Bottom line:
It just doesn't get much better than this!

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03-24-2006, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by annikan skywalker
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Billy Herring
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Wearing jeans with shirt hanging out?! Sort it out annikan.
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03-24-2006, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by tongzilla
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Wearing jeans with shirt hanging out?! Sort it out annikan.
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You're right Leo and I agree...but in the US...the shirt hanging out and the jeans are "The School Boy's Uniform" here in the US....How many 14 year olds listen to all of which you have to say?....Someday he'll apprecitae Zanella Slacks and Bobby Jones Silk's!!! But for now..just a country boy!!! 
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03-24-2006, 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by annikan skywalker
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Billy Herring
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oh to be a young kid with a great coach. good luck to the young grasshopper, from just another coulda-been-champion 
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09-30-2006, 03:22 PM
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How ?
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Originally Posted by annikan skywalker
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Here's proof positive that you can teach TGM without every using it's language...Billy Herring - 14 Years old...12 minute lesson Monday thru Friday before he leaves for school! He's a Champion..He has a Vision...He told Mike Holder of Oklahoma State this summer at the OSU Golf Camp.."Coach I'm comin to OSU"...Coach Holder probably thought "Okay?"...then several days later..this boy was medalist shooting ...I believe a couple under...Guess he can back it up!!!
Billy Herring
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Annikan,
Could you, or someone else, tell me what drills you use to get a student to be that "quiet" or as Yoda calls it, in balance, with the feet as in picture # 7?
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