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Old 03-24-2006, 02:42 PM
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HERE'S A FANTASTIC EXPLANATION BY COLLARDS ON THE INTRACACIES OF HINGE ACTION AND SWIVEL I have this tatoo'd on my forehead.
Thanks a heck of a lot for the explanation! A great read.

I still have a little confusion. I can't understand how this hinge explanation works for any way but one. How would you do a Horizontal Hinge vs Angled Hinge vs Vertical Hinge. I don't yet understand how to change the amounts of "Turn" for Horizontal vs Angled vs Vertical Hinge.

*And I thought I understood Horizontal/Angled/Vertical Hinge action two years ago.
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Old 03-24-2006, 03:03 PM
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Thanks a heck of a lot for the explanation! A great read.

I still have a little confusion. I can't understand how this hinge explanation works for any way but one. How would you do a Horizontal Hinge vs Angled Hinge vs Vertical Hinge. I don't yet understand how to change the amounts of "Turn" for Horizontal vs Angled vs Vertical Hinge.

*And I thought I understood Horizontal/Angled/Vertical Hinge action two years ago.
It's what you hold your left wrist perpendicular to. So Horizontal Hinge is on the HORZONTAL PLANE. Like the shooting people with your index finger. Your arm is like a DOOR swinging on its hinge. It moves on a horizontal plane right?BUT to get from the HORIZONTAL PLANE to the "golf plane" which is the Inclined Plane (like a roof) you gotta drop your arm down on it. Hence Dual Horizontal Hinging Hinge #1 is the like the door's hinge, but to get to the Inclined Plane you need a second hinge to drop it down from your shoulder socket. Make sense?

Now Verticle Hinge is like an attic door or a trap door. It moves on a VERTICAL PLANE right? So you move your arm up and down like you were trying to fly. But you need a second hinge to get you on the inclined plane . . . so Dual Vertical Hinging. Cool?

Now for Angled Hinging you don't need no 2nd hinge because you are already on the Inclined Plane. Therefore your wrist just remains verticle to the Inclined Plane (roof).

That's the conceptual stuff but you can control your Hinge Action by FEEL and by how the Clubhead points:

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7-10 HINGE ACTION . . . Beside the coverage in 2-D, 2-G and 10-10, “Basic Hinging” has the following characteristics of appearance and feel. Between the “Full Roll” of Horizontal Hinging and the “No Roll” of Vertical Hinging, Angled Hinging takes on a “Half Roll” motion. While Horizontal Hinging retains the “Feel” of a “Roll”, Angled Hinging takes on a “No Roll” Feel and Vertical Hinging is executed as a “Reverse Roll

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Stop at the end of a short Chip Shot – the Club at about 45 degrees. With Horizontal Hinging, the toe of the Club will point along the Plane Line. With Angled Hinging, about 45 degrees across the Plane Line. With Vertical Hinging, about 90 degrees across the Plane Line with the Clubface looking Squarely at the sky. And always with a Flat Left Wrist vertical to its associated Basic Plane. “Over Roll” or “Under Roll” of the Left Wrist – NOT VERTICAL – puts the Swingle out of line with the Handle (Sketch 2-K) as much as does any other form of Clubhead Throwaway. Practice these alignments until you have the same Rhythm hitting the Ball as with your Practice Swing. Their difference is always Rhythm.

The KEY to this Rhythm is the #3 Accumulator (6-B-3-0). As part of the above drill, hold the 45 degree Arm position while rotating the Hands and the #3 Accumulator through the three Hinging positions, over and over until you see that each position changes the LOCATION of the Clubhead. The Point to note here is that with each Hinge Action the #3 Accumulator has a different “In Line” motion – Dual Horizontal Hinging having the longest travel and Dual Vertical the shortest. This agrees with the “Roll Characteristics” discussed in 7-10 and must be so executed to produce proper Rhythm.


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Old 03-24-2006, 03:45 PM
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At the moment I'm trying to imagine how a horizontal hinge that is dropped down (Dual Horizontal Hinge) is different from an Angle Hinge.

Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
It's what you hold your left wrist perpendicular to. So Horizontal Hinge is on the HORZONTAL PLANE. Like the shooting people with your index finger. Your arm is like a DOOR swinging on its hinge. It moves on a horizontal plane right?BUT to get from the HORIZONTAL PLANE to the "golf plane" which is the Inclined Plane (like a roof) you gotta drop your arm down on it. Hence Dual Horizontal Hinging Hinge #1 is the like the door's hinge, but to get to the Inclined Plane you need a second hinge to drop it down from your shoulder socket. Make sense?

Now Verticle Hinge is like an attic door or a trap door. It moves on a VERTICLE PLANE right? So you move your arm up and down like you were trying to fly. But you need a second hinge to get you on the inclined plane . . . so Dual Verticle Hinging. Cool?

Now for Angled Hinging you don't need no 2nd hinge because you are already on the Inclined Plane. Therefore your wrist just remains verticle to the Inclined Plane (roof).

That's the conceptual stuff but you can control your Hinge Action by FEEL and by how the Clubhead points:

FEEL
7-10 HINGE ACTION . . . Beside the coverage in 2-D, 2-G and 10-10, “Basic Hinging” has the following characteristics of appearance and feel. Between the “Full Roll” of Horizontal Hinging and the “No Roll” of Vertical Hinging, Angled Hinging takes on a “Half Roll” motion. While Horizontal Hinging retains the “Feel” of a “Roll”, Angled Hinging takes on a “No Roll” Feel and Vertical Hinging is executed as a “Reverse Roll

VISUALLY
Stop at the end of a short Chip Shot – the Club at about 45 degrees. With Horizontal Hinging, the toe of the Club will point along the Plane Line. With Angled Hinging, about 45 degrees across the Plane Line. With Vertical Hinging, about 90 degrees across the Plane Line with the Clubface looking Squarely at the sky. And always with a Flat Left Wrist vertical to its associated Basic Plane. “Over Roll” or “Under Roll” of the Left Wrist – NOT VERTICAL – puts the Swingle out of line with the Handle (Sketch 2-K) as much as does any other form of Clubhead Throwaway. Practice these alignments until you have the same Rhythm hitting the Ball as with your Practice Swing. Their difference is always Rhythm.

The KEY to this Rhythm is the #3 Accumulator (6-B-3-0). As part of the above drill, hold the 45 degree Arm position while rotating the Hands and the #3 Accumulator through the three Hinging positions, over and over until you see that each position changes the LOCATION of the Clubhead. The Point to note here is that with each Hinge Action the #3 Accumulator has a different “In Line” motion – Dual Horizontal Hinging having the longest travel and Dual Vertical the shortest. This agrees with the “Roll Characteristics” discussed in 7-10 and must be so executed to produce proper Rhythm.


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Old 03-24-2006, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by noproblemos
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At the moment I'm trying to imagine how a horizontal hinge that is dropped down (Dual Horizontal Hinge) is different from an Angle Hinge.
1. Stop at the end of a short Chip Shot – the Club at about 45 degrees.

a. With Horizontal Hinging, the toe of the Club will point along the Plane Line.

b. With Angled Hinging, about 45 degrees across the Plane Line.

c. With Vertical Hinging, about 90 degrees across the Plane Line with the Clubface looking Squarely at the sky.

With open hand hold your hand VERTICAL (at 90 degrees to) the Inclined Plane with your left arm at follow-thru position. It is still "cutting through the Plane right?

Now raise your open palm up infront of where it would be at follow-thru with the hand Vertical to the ground. Now drop it down to where your arm would be at follow-thru on the inclined plane. It is MORE ROLLED no?
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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
1. Stop at the end of a short Chip Shot – the Club at about 45 degrees.

a. With Horizontal Hinging, the toe of the Club will point along the Plane Line.

b. With Angled Hinging, about 45 degrees across the Plane Line.

c. With Vertical Hinging, about 90 degrees across the Plane Line with the Clubface looking Squarely at the sky.

With open hand hold your hand VERTICAL (at 90 degrees to) the Inclined Plane with your left arm at follow-thru position. It is still "cutting through the Plane right?

Now raise your open palm up infront of where it would be at follow-thru with the hand Vertical to the ground. Now drop it down to where your arm would be at follow-thru on the inclined plane. It is MORE ROLLED no?
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Old 03-24-2006, 09:33 PM
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Now Vertical Hinge is like an attic door or a trap door. It moves on a VERTICAL PLANE right? So you move your arm up and down like you were trying to fly.
"Like you were trying to fly."



How many times will I say those words over the next ten years?

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"Like you were trying to fly."



How many times will I say those words over the next ten years?

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You like? I prefer the yardbird image. Like Rocky chasin' that chicken around a vacant lot. People north of the Mason Dixon don't know nothin' 'bout no yardbird. Chickens are for chasin', fryin', bbq'n, and chok. . . (ah hewm!!!).
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