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04-30-2006, 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by lagster
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So ideally the Left Arm is Blasted Off from 8-9(RELEASE) to 8-10(IMPACT), and is NOT CONNECTED at 8-10(IMPACT) on through to 8-12(FINISH)?
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04-30-2006, 11:54 PM
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Lagster,
Must the release of the accumulators be sequenced such that they are spent as momentum transfer moves from the feet to the clubhead?
6-M-1 allows for overlap and much more.
Great subject.
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Bagger
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05-01-2006, 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by lagster
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So, ideally the Left Arm is Blasted Off from 8-9(RELEASE) to 8-10(IMPACT), and is not CONNECTED at 8-10(IMPACT) on through to 8-12(FINISH)?
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Correct, Lagster. Pulled by the Hip Action, the Right Shoulder should be used to Load the Lag during Start Down. However, it is slow and cannot compete with the remaining Accumulators -- the Right Elbow, Left Wristcock and Left Hand Motion -- to crank up the Speed during Release.
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05-01-2006, 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by davel
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Neil
The number of tour players who use headcovers or towels for practice to maintain the left arm connection are countless and V.J. Singh is right up there. Ben Hogan wrote that he used straps of the sort I am talking about. EdZ listed the figure 8 as his favorite training aid. There are definitely people who believe in such devices and teachers who believe in the maintenance of this connection as I believe this holds up the structure of the wedges.
By the way I would like to correct my statement about the elbows inside the hips to pointing toward the hips ala Hogan, Leadbetter, Ballard etc. That would mean from the view of the players back at address you would not be able to see the players elbows.
The fundamental question then becomes if these devices work what is the reason? Or as you believe they don't then no explanation is necessary.
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Elbows the same distance apart and pointed Down.
The figure 8 Strap is in effect the 'power package', the triangle. 'Connection' as it is often discussed, is a mutation of the core benefits of the strap (plane and correct clubface rate of closing - Rhythm)
The relationship between the hands and chest through impact, as a RESULT of motion, and the structure of the power package staying in place.
This has little to do with 'welding' the left arm and chest (PP#4), as Yoda describes, that is a result of motion, and trying to keep that connection is a best a huge power loss.
The 'point' is that the strap keeps the power package structure in place by defining the geometric relationship, the triangle formed by the arms and shoulder line AT BOTH ARMS STRAIGHT.
Defining the 'aiming point' in a fairly direct way, given an understanding of TGM impact alignments (left arm to shoulder line angle).
Always remember - send FORCE to both arms straight per 1-L-15
Restore that 'triangle' the strap gives you at both arms straight.
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05-01-2006, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by neil
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Vijay could not keep that glove /headcover there in his playing swing.
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Neil,
Not to nitpick, but Vijay is so flexible, he can keep the glove there during his entire full swing.
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05-01-2006, 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by EdZ
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Elbows the same distance apart and pointed Down.
The figure 8 Strap is in effect the 'power package', the triangle. 'Connection' as it is often discussed, is a mutation of the core benefits of the strap (plane and correct clubface rate of closing - Rhythm)
The relationship between the hands and chest through impact, as a RESULT of motion, and the structure of the power package staying in place.
This has little to do with 'welding' the left arm and chest (PP#4), as Yoda describes, that is a result of motion, and trying to keep that connection is a best a huge power loss.
The 'point' is that the strap keeps the power package structure in place by defining the geometric relationship, the triangle formed by the arms and shoulder line AT BOTH ARMS STRAIGHT.
Defining the 'aiming point' in a fairly direct way, given an understanding of TGM impact alignments (left arm to shoulder line angle).
Always remember - send FORCE to both arms straight per 1-L-15
Restore that 'triangle' the strap gives you at both arms straight.
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Edz, notice I did not make a comment about the strap-it does not keep the arm against the chest.I think I remember trying it and if recall correctly it will allow extensor action.Now that sounds good. 
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05-01-2006, 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackjackNY
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Neil,
Not to nitpick, but Vijay is so flexible, he can keep the glove there during his entire full swing.
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I don't know what flexibility has got to do with it(i'm still thinking about that )but I can keep it there! EASILY-until release.I'm trying to get it to drop.I cannot see how ANYONE can keep a glove there to the finish. 
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05-05-2006, 09:33 PM
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Yoda And You-Know-Who Load #4
Here's a comparative stop-action that shows Ben and me with a fully-loaded Pressure Point #4 (where the Left Arm contacts the chest). No falling 'headcover under the Arm' here!
I never sought to copy Ben. I just sought to swing according to the Principles and Procedures of The Golfing Machine, and this is what I got.
Hogan dug it out of the dirt.
I dug it out of the little Yellow Book.

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