A Question for Yoda, regarding Homer and Shaft Flex

[golfgnome]

Please, please, please tell us all why they did not fit. Please tell us if you went through a follow-up with your teacher. If they do not fit, private message me so maybe we can fix the situation. We want the clubs to work. Blanket statements that "they do not fit" puts the blame on HG. Like I stated originally, there is a relationship between you and your fitter/teacher. If he did not want to work with you, then I blame him. But if you are going with the opinion of another fitter or club repair person, then HG can not be held responsible. We want you to enjoy your clubs and your game.

[jpeck]

My clubs did not fit because the guy gave me a little lesson so that I could hit what ever club he handed me. When I did a follow-up he gave me the same little lesson so that I could hit them again.

In order to play decent golf I would have had to hire this guy to follow me around the golf course. Understand that if I put my normal swing on any of these clubs I would be lucky to find the ball again. Block fade kept the ball on the golf course.

My reference to "standard" specs was simply to point out the difference between the two sets of clubs. As for the "experts" remarks...well, you should not have tried to make out that hg know more or do better work than anyone else. My clubs were junk.

Understand that I don't want to start one of those nasty forum wars here on Lynn's site. However, I feel duty bound to tell it like it is. hg uses testimonials to sell clubs...Well, this is my testimonial.

I've moved on from this episode in my golf but I would just like to say "Let The Buyer Beware".

Unfortunate, indeed.

I feel I have made my point and won't comment on this again.

[golfgnome]

Originally Posted by jpeck

My clubs did not fit because the guy gave me a little lesson so that I could hit what ever club he handed me. When I did a follow-up he gave me the same little lesson so that I could hit them again.

This is commonly referred to as a balance evaluation and is what HG fitters do to get the student to repeat an on-plane balanced motion.

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In order to play decent golf I would have had to hire this guy to follow me around the golf course. Understand that if I put my normal swing on any of these clubs I would be lucky to find the ball again. Block fade kept the ball on the golf course.

Sounds to me that the fitter was trying to use the clubs to get you to swing on plane better. It may "seem as if" that is what you were doing, but that is your feel. Mechanics produce and feel reproduces. You may be coming over the top or over plane because your clubs may have been to flat and an on-plane motion would make the ball go to the right.

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My reference to "standard" specs was simply to point out the difference between the two sets of clubs. As for the "experts" remarks...well, you should not have tried to make out that hg know more or do better work than anyone else. My clubs were junk.

I never tried to make out that HG knew more than anyone else, only defending what we do and the inovation that we brought to fitting. I only tried to explain that we use a different sent of specifications. As far as your clubs were junk, lets just agree that you were not happy with them. Our quality control and attention to detail is highly regarded by other companies as well.

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Understand that I don't want to start one of those nasty forum wars here on Lynn's site. However, I feel duty bound to tell it like it is. hg uses testimonials to sell clubs...Well, this is my testimonial.

No nastiness here, just trying to give a fair presentation of what HG does. There are many great teachers out there that may not be able to help you, but does that make them junky teachers.

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I've moved on from this episode in my golf but I would just like to say "Let The Buyer Beware".

An educated consumer is always the way to go. This thread is to educate and inform. I am not trying to change your views only to let others know that HG is not "junk". If someone had a bad experience with TGM they would say many bad things about the book. Would you not try to defend its merits as well?

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Unfortunate, indeed. I feel I have made my point and won't comment on this again.

I appreciate your comments as it has helped shed light on fitting and teaching and how both can be misunderstood.

[birdie_man]

I had 4 degree upright clubs once...woulda been 64 deg. 5 iron I think.

(barf!)

I dunno how Scott Hoch does it.