#1 06-25-2006, 01:09 PM birdie_man Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Canader Posts: 1,092 I had 4 degree upright clubs once...woulda been 64 deg. 5 iron I think. (barf!) I dunno how Scott Hoch does it. birdie_man View Public Profile Send a private message to birdie_man Find all posts by birdie_man