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Old 07-18-2006, 11:40 AM
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Given that the impact hand location for almost everyone is higher than at standard (or adjusted) address and that the goal is the have the RF on plane with the shaft at impact, does the RF have to match the shaft plane at standard or adjusted address, or just get it as close as possible.

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Old 07-18-2006, 11:56 AM
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I saw that spot too...thought it was pretty interesting. Trevino had some pure impact alignments in his day, and I would say he still does.
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Old 07-18-2006, 05:51 PM
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I missed that Lynn but what I did see was where he stuck an iron in the ground (clubhead toe in the ground) opposite the ball with the shaft pointing towards him and said "That's a cannon and it's going to fire at impact". He then swung and demonstrated that all of his upper body passed by the ball at impact. "The cannon now just shoots into air, just behind my right leg". (hope I quoted it correctly).
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Old 07-18-2006, 09:52 PM
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Positioning the Hands and Right Forearm In the Address Routine
Originally Posted by blehnhard

Given that the impact hand location for almost everyone is higher than at standard (or adjusted) address and that the goal is the have the RF on plane with the shaft at impact, does the RF have to match the shaft plane at standard or adjusted address, or just get it as close as possible.

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Bruce,


You are right that most everyone comes in with their Hands higher than in their Address Position, even the "good players." But it doesn't have to be that way.

If you follow the Address Routine in 2-J-1 -- with the Clubhead either 'hovered' behind the Ball or else soled properly (toward the Toe of the Club) and with Extensor Action applied -- you will have set your Hands at exactly the same height they should return at Impact. Of course, almost nobody does this, so assuming a proper On Plane Downstroke without Throwaway, the Hands cannot possibly return to their Address Position. Nor should they.

Regarding the Right Forearm, it will not be at its full Bend until the Hip Turn and Axis Tilt have lowered Right Shoulder. Hence, unless the Address is taken in a full Impact Fix, there typically will be "less Right Arm" at Address than at Impact. So, I recommend getting the Forearm as close to in-line with the Clubshaft as possible at Address, without contorting the Body or artificially creating an extreme Right Arm Bend. However, in any case, the Right Forearm will be definitely below the Left (when viewed from 'down the line').

Study Photos 9-2-1 #2 (Address) and 9-2-2 #2 (Impact Fix) in The Golfing Machine. Those wishing to improve (or verify) their current Arm and Hand alignments will find them worthy objectives.
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Old 07-19-2006, 07:44 AM
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Why does the Right Wrist Position in 9-2-1 #2 (Address) look like 4-B-3 (Uncocked)?

Could it be because Diane is trying to use the same Clubshaft Angle at Impact with the Right Forearm in-line with the Clubshaft, but without the Right Shoulder being On Plane (like it is at Impact in 9-2-2 #2)?
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Old 07-20-2006, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Yoda

Bruce,


You are right that most everyone comes in with their Hands higher than in their Address Position, even the "good players." But it doesn't have to be that way.

If you follow the Address Routine in 2-J-1 -- with the Clubhead either 'hovered' behind the Ball or else soled properly (toward the Toe of the Club) and with Extensor Action applied -- you will have set your Hands at exactly the same height they should return at Impact. Of course, almost nobody does this, so assuming a proper On Plane Downstroke without Throwaway, the Hands cannot possibly return to their Address Position. Nor should they.

Regarding the Right Forearm, it will not be at its full Bend until the Hip Turn and Axis Tilt have lowered Right Shoulder. Hence, unless the Address is taken in a full Impact Fix, there typically will be "less Right Arm" at Address than at Impact. So, I recommend getting the Forearm as close to in-line with the Clubshaft as possible at Address, without contorting the Body or artificially creating an extreme Right Arm Bend. However, in any case, the Right Forearm will be definitely below the Left (when viewed from 'down the line').

Study Photos 9-2-1 #2 (Address) and 9-2-2 #2 (Impact Fix) in The Golfing Machine. Those wishing to improve (or verify) their current Arm and Hand alignments will find them worthy objectives.

Lordy be, Yoda- I had never noticed that paragraph before. Genius. I always felt uncomfortable adding extensior action because my club was soled. I can't wait to try this out!
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