Who's Who At Hoylake

The Open Championship / July 20-23, 2006

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Old 07-20-2006, 05:32 AM
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Like I Said...A Short List
Originally Posted by yippedagain

Don't think Nicklaus and Player should be on the list either.


Correction made. Thanks, yippedagain.

Doing my homework in arrears, I've now scoured the list of past British Open champions -- back to the days of Young Tom (Morris, not Watson) -- and found one more U.S.-British Open same-year Open Champion -- Gene Sarazen. So that would leave the five in my edited post (Jones, Sarazen, Hogan, Trevino, Watson and Woods).

Can anybody else find another same-year dual winner?

To save you a little trouble, five-time British Open winners Vardon and Thomson didn't make the grade, nor did four-time winners Hagen and Locke. Palmer won his British Opens in 1961 and 1962, but got his lone U.S. Open in 1960. And four-time U.S. Open winner Willie Anderson never won the British (it was quite a boat ride in the early 1900s -- expensive, too).
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Old 07-20-2006, 06:58 AM
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Going only from a fading memory, but didn't Watson win at Pebble Beach and Troon in '82?.
Arnie should've but didn't in '60, ending up runner up to Kel Nagle at St Andrews.
Nicklaus came close at Muirfield in '72.
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Old 07-20-2006, 07:22 AM
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David Graham wasn't far away in '81 at Sandwich. And if Nicklaus and Watson hadn't been at Turnberry in '77 Hubert Green would have.
Beginning to sound like one of my rounds!.
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Old 07-20-2006, 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by yippedagain

Going only from a fading memory, but didn't Watson win at Pebble Beach and Troon in '82?.
Arnie should've but didn't in '60, ending up runner up to Kel Nagle at St Andrews.
Nicklaus came close at Muirfield in '72.
Okay...okay! I've made the correction in all posts (to avoid any misinformation).

In correcting the last post, I saw that I credited (this morning at 5:30 a.m.) Willie Macfarlane as a four-time U.S. Open winner instead of Willie Anderson. Willie M. won his only U.S. Open in 1925, fifteen years after the death of Willie A.

You guys better get with it!
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Old 07-22-2006, 06:05 PM
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right forearm on plane at Hoylake
Watching the tv and saw that Miguel Angel Jimenez and Sergio are both pretty good at placing right forearm on shaft plane at preliminary address - then adjust slightly to raise elbow onto steeper plane for their equivalent of adjusted address.

Working well for Sergio today!!!
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Old 07-23-2006, 12:34 AM
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I just hope to see a big duel tomorrow...

With Tiger losing in the end...

A good duel tho....someone going head to head with Tiger and BEATING HIM.

It just needs to be done...

So people don't puss out and say stupid things anymore like: "The tournament's over already" etc.
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Old 07-23-2006, 12:47 AM
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Theres alot riding on this for Tiger tommorow - He's far ahead and never has he lost from being in the lead on the third day. Its is a great part of the phychological choke-hold that gives Tiger a distinct advantage.
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Old 07-24-2006, 04:48 AM
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I have just come back from working as a spotter at Hoylake for ABC TV. My job was to relay the clubs the players were using on a par 3 hole. On Thursday and Saturday I was on the 198 yard 9th and on Friday I worked the198 yard 13th . The 9th played a lot easier as it was more inland and most of the clubs were in the 8 to 7 iron range although Cabrera got on with a 9 iron. The 13th played longer as there tended to be an into wind and was mainly a 6 iron although 5s and 4 were used into the wind. I don't know how the Championship looked on TV but IMO the venue was not worthy of holding the British Open. The course was bland the fairways too flat and the rough was not at all penal as the grass was bone dry and brittle . The course needed a lot of wind to test the players but there was almost no wind over the 4 days apart from a little in the afternoon on Sunday. It felt like a major championship held at a public municipal course. The course was too compact and spectators could not get around easily . The practice ground was tiny and set up on another course across the road and the parking was miles away.. The greens were awful and were not consistent within the green or to each other . On the same green you had green and burned out brown patches and on a long putt the ball could go over several different type of green before it got to the hole. Hensby and Pampling were talking about this on the 13th tee and were not impressed. Other than this and a run in with Steve Williams Tiger's caddy had a good time.
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Originally Posted by hue
Other than this and a run in with Steve Williams Tiger's caddy had a good time.
Don't tell me that he tossed your camera in the lake?

Thanks for your comments. It's nice to hear from someone who was actually there inside the ropes.
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Old 07-24-2006, 07:08 AM
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Bit Harsh?
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It felt like a major championship held at a public municipal course.
I must admit i'm not Hoylake's biggest fan (i think it has too few memorable holes), but i do feel you've been a bit harsh Hue. A lot of your criticisms are not the fault of Hoylake, but of the heatwave we've indured in the UK over the last 3 weeks.
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