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Old 08-12-2006, 06:44 PM
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More lag pressure
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Well, after shanking a couple of chips on the practice green (I did begin to chip very well, however), I went on to strike the ball on the range better than I have all year. I still think I should be able to generate a little more lag pressure, though. Any ideas?
Generating MORE lag pressure is not important - what is important is whatever lag you load - you maintain it by steady acceleration or increasing mass. Now, if you are losing some lag pressure before impact- then you will need to work on correcting that. So it's not so much generating more lag pressure but being able to better detect minor changes in lag pressure that's crucial.

However, I might have mis-interpreted the intention of your post- feel free to correct me. But I think if you really wanted to JUST increase lag pressure you could do that fairly easily by shortening the stroke and increasing the thrust.

Good Luck with your game and thanks for keeping us posted.
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Old 08-12-2006, 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike O
Generating MORE lag pressure is not important - what is important is whatever lag you load - you maintain it by steady acceleration or increasing mass. Now, if you are losing some lag pressure before impact- then you will need to work on correcting that. So it's not so much generating more lag pressure but being able to better detect minor changes in lag pressure that's crucial.

However, I might have mis-interpreted the intention of your post- feel free to correct me. But I think if you really wanted to JUST increase lag pressure you could do that fairly easily by shortening the stroke and increasing the thrust.

Good Luck with your game and thanks for keeping us posted.
Yes sir. It is "SUSTAIN" the Lag . . . not increase the lag. Very subtle yet important point.
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Old 08-12-2006, 09:32 PM
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Yes sir. It is "SUSTAIN" the Lag . . . not increase the lag. Very subtle yet important point.
That's right bucket!

On the other hand- a constant increasing lag pressure from startdown through impact is also something that could be used as a reliable procedure.
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Old 08-14-2006, 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike O
That's right bucket!

On the other hand- a constant increasing lag pressure from startdown through impact is also something that could be used as a reliable procedure.
A very 'heavy' feel indeed...
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Old 08-14-2006, 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike O
That's right bucket!

On the other hand- a constant increasing lag pressure from startdown through impact is also something that could be used as a reliable procedure.
How does one learn to produce constantly increasing lag pressure from startdown through impact? I would love to know.
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Old 08-14-2006, 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by tgmnut
How does one learn to produce constantly increasing lag pressure from startdown through impact? I would love to know.
A big first step is to slow things down. Really get the feel of a true 'swinging' motion, letting gravity show you just how slow and smooth you need to be to begin to get the feel of lag pressure.

Start with chip, pitch, punch with your right thumb and forefinger off the club, then drill swings with your 160 club hitting it only 100 yards with a full motion.

Another great place to start is with the putter. Really focus on the swinging club and the pressure points keeping their smooth steady pressure and you'll start to hear a nice 'click' that you may have never heard before
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The HANDS do nothing but hold on. (as a thought for you)

Hit divots as if the "ball" were at your front toe...see how forward you can get it...(as a drill for you)...(btw if you hit your irons low after this start with your head no more forward than center...and KEEP it back)

Another drill...

Learn to hit something with a towel in your hands (swing it like a club)......sustain the lag! (lol)

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And all this is null if your clubface is rolled too open in the backswing....

...cause having Lag will do nothing for you but leave the face too open for even longer. (and it might make you shank)

Good luck.

Soon enough it'll be second nature. (with practice and good mechanics)
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Old 08-14-2006, 10:30 PM
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Thanks EdZ and Birdie! I'll start work on this tomorrow! Question, though, EdZ. Does the right thumb and forefinger drill work for hitting? I've seen this drill, but always thought of it as a swingers drill.

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Old 08-15-2006, 01:28 AM
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Originally Posted by tgmnut
How does one learn to produce constantly increasing lag pressure from startdown through impact? I would love to know.
If you have the book "The Golfing Machine"- look under the section 2-M-2- that's the section that will give you the principles for increasing lag pressure, or creating it, increasing it etc. If you're not creating or maintainging lag pressure currently - is it easy to do? NO. Off plane motion and or off plane loading will surely require you to lose lag pressure before impact otherwise you'd miss the ball- I don't say that to make it sound like you have to be perfect to accomplish it but I say it in that it's easy to try your best using some of the concepts and still not be able to accomplish it. Without video of your swing here, and assuming you've tried on your own and are still having problems, then a good instructor would probably greatly help. I'm assuming you've seen your swing on video to help you determine any issues.
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