For Lee Dietrick or anybody who cares to answer

[libero]

Thanks to both of you Jim and EdZ.

Jim,the first of your statements partly applys to my swing. I realize that I apply pressure on pp3 mostly and pp1 as well but less than pp3 while uncocking my wrists.I didnt consider of using tricep muscle as this pertains to "hitting" in TGM
what shall I do to apply the "magic of right forearms exactly?

EdZ:
On the contrary,my swing is pretty flat,I never go with my hands above right shoulder high on my backswing,using start up swivel of left wrist.

Libero

[ldeit]

Libero,

Sorry for the delay in replying.

Here is my take on what you are doing.

First,

though TT recommends you do not consciously think of the pivot, he does not say there is zero downswing pivot. Somewhere in the tape he mentions when you Karate Chop the sides of the hands toward the ball, that it will look very different on video to what it feels like. He also says that the pivot respond to your intention to move the hands toward the ball. (those are my words, as I do not remember TT exact words)

Second,

I believe TT wanted there to be more of a a full roll of Horizontal Hinging rather than the half roll of Angled Hinging. That is probably why your longer clubs are tending to go to the right, that's the layback.

I have not watched the tape in a while but will in the next few days and report back. I do not remember what questions I asked TT before he sent me the tape. I still follow the basics of what he sent to me which is TGM.

Lee

[libero]

Lee hi! thanks for ur reply.

1st
youre right abt TT pivot motion and I understodd what he means. maybe I didn't express it correctly. What I meant was that I don't have to start the downswing with hips but with arms motion which will pull the body into impact,followthrough and finish,not that the pivot must not move!

2nd
the motion of the right hand he is showing (exactly a karate chop
looking motion) is not the same he is showing when holding a club.
At least this is what I see in the videos. If I try to perform the karate-chop-like motion of the right hand and think (as he says) of hitting only down and out I always find myself with an
angled hinging of the left wrist actually closer to a vertical hinge than horizontal.
For what I understood he saw that your shots too had the tendency of going to the right and he was suggesting you to think of swinging the hands forward,past your left side,in order to straiten or even drawing your shots. Infact he was showing that in such a way the toe of the club (but well past impact),was pointing to the sky.With Media Player I cannot watch the videos frame by frame so I don't know how is the clubface at impact. Anyway if you think of just swinging your arms past your left side that's also hitting forward,not merely down and out,no
karate chops.
So I would like to make it clear: karate chops or not?
In the end did u follow TT advices and how are u swinging nowadays?

many thanks Lee

Libero

[Delaware Golf]

Lee hi! thanks for ur reply.

1st
youre right abt TT pivot motion and I understodd what he means. maybe I didn't express it correctly. What I meant was that I don't have to start the downswing with hips but with arms motion which will pull the body into impact,followthrough and finish,not that the pivot must not move!

2nd
the motion of the right hand he is showing (exactly a karate chop
looking motion) is not the same he is showing when holding a club.
At least this is what I see in the videos. If I try to perform the karate-chop-like motion of the right hand and think (as he says) of hitting only down and out I always find myself with an
angled hinging of the left wrist actually closer to a vertical hinge than horizontal.
For what I understood he saw that your shots too had the tendency of going to the right and he was suggesting you to think of swinging the hands forward,past your left side,in order to straiten or even drawing your shots. Infact he was showing that in such a way the toe of the club (but well past impact),was pointing to the sky.With Media Player I cannot watch the videos frame by frame so I don't know how is the clubface at impact. Anyway if you think of just swinging your arms past your left side that's also hitting forward,not merely down and out,no
karate chops.
So I would like to make it clear: karate chops or not?
In the end did u follow TT advices and how are u swinging nowadays?

many thanks Lee

Libero

I highly advise doing the extensor action drill from the Tomasello Australia video series...I believe it's in the "Arms" video. That's very very very important drill for ANY golfer...it's the drill where Tommy puts his left hand into a fist...and takes his right hand and places it above his left wrist. Make a backswing with the drill....stop at the top of backswing...with your right forearm try to hit out on the downswing and see what you feel...you should feel an over top move/condition...do it slowly...and I think you'll see what I mean...so, I believe you will see the only motion at the start of the downswing is down with the right forearm....read 7-3 where Homer writes...."On Plane Right Forearm shows the percise up-and-down direction it and the Clubshaft must take throughout the Stroke (2-J-3)". Now reference Tomasello's 1991 interview..."The upward and downward force is provided by a straight-up folding and unfolding of the Right Forearm from its address position."

DG