Delivery Line Uncocking Prep

[c21heel]

Thanks for the replies; they are all very much appreciated. All of you obviously understand the concepts very well, especially impressive is your ability to verbalize the moves.

After reviewing the replies, I went to the golf course today and struck the ball very well with what I think is the correct move. Here is how I visualized it...

First, I imagined Hogan's plane of glass sitting on my shoulders. At the top of the swing, I imagined the logo of my glove sliding inside against the plane of glass all the way down while uncocking my wrist. At that point, I would allow centrifugal force to take over and square the clubface into a finish swivel. It worked like a champ, but we all know that feel is not always real. Additonally, it was a very powerful feeling to have the right arm inside the left to start the downswing as this prevented me from coming over the top.

Is this visualization something I should continue to work with?

Thanks again.

[Mathew]

Thanks for the replies; they are all very much appreciated. All of you obviously understand the concepts very well, especially impressive is your ability to verbalize the moves.

After reviewing the replies, I went to the golf course today and struck the ball very well with what I think is the correct move. Here is how I visualized it...

First, I imagined Hogan's plane of glass sitting on my shoulders. At the top of the swing, I imagined the logo of my glove sliding inside against the plane of glass all the way down while uncocking my wrist. At that point, I would allow centrifugal force to take over and square the clubface into a finish swivel. It worked like a champ, but we all know that feel is not always real. Additonally, it was a very powerful feeling to have the right arm inside the left to start the downswing as this prevented me from coming over the top.

Is this visualization something I should continue to work with?

Thanks again.

The one problem here is that the left arm is not on the plane - it is above plane - the arm works like a spiraling cone getting ever closer to the plane on the downstroke until it finally manages to reach it in followthrough.... This means in practical terms - the strike is made with the hand - the left arm does not glide on the plane which why I am not a great fan of the frisbee idea Edz pointed out earlier (although I do see good points about the example too). Your hand has to be thrusted cross-line in order to comply with the outward specifications of the plane which is why Hogan actually thought that the plane tilted to the right. Remember that because your standing to one side of this moving radius - it is going to appear to be going outwards until it approximately passes your left foot.

Visualisation is key to alot of games and can be hard to initially incorporate, but by practicing eventually you should program yourself to just doing it without it being a hardship. The best pool players are the ones that understand the geometry and force and are best able to visualise it - eventually they just the see the shots, where they are aiming...etc - the best golfers are no exception - its a game of geometrically aligned force...it is just generally harder for people to accept that due to the influence of golf digests and those of the same type - 'position golf'....

[12 piece bucket]

Your hand has to be thrusted cross-line in order to comply with the outward specifications of the plane which is why Hogan actually thought that the plane tilted to the right.
Visualisation is key to alot of games and can be hard to initially incorporate, but by practicing eventually you should program yourself to just doing it without it being a hardship. The best pool players are the ones that understand the geometry and force and are best able to visualise it - eventually they just the see the shots, where they are aiming...etc - the best golfers are no exception - its a game of geometrically aligned force...it is just generally harder for people to accept that due to the influence of golf digests and those of the same type - 'position golf'....

That may be one of the MOST ASTUTE observations on HOGAN that I have ever read. I have read a lot of books about Hogan. None have made a more relevant point.

Wonder what those pool sharks would be like if the had to shoot from the side of the ball with a hooked-tipped que?

You are on fire in this thread my friend!

[c21heel]

12 Piece Bucket, not to change the subject, but about the only thing that would make this thread more exciting is a good ole Cheerwine to drink while reading it. I noticed you are from North Carolina....a little less than two months before UNC Basketball!

[12 piece bucket]

12 Piece Bucket, not to change the subject, but about the only thing that would make this thread more exciting is a good ole Cheerwine to drink while reading it. I noticed you are from North Carolina....a little less than two months before UNC Basketball!

Thank GAWD too! The football team has had some freakin' b-ball numbers hung on them. I SOOOOO want a top 20 football program to live in Kenan Stadium. I barely graduated down there in nineteen and ninety-five. No place like. Carolina girls!!!!

Drank 2 20oz Cheerwines today dawg. SUNdrop.

[Mathew]

That may be one of the MOST ASTUTE observations on HOGAN that I have ever read. I have read a lot of books about Hogan. None have made a more relevant point.

Wonder what those pool sharks would be like if the had to shoot from the side of the ball with a hooked-tipped que?

You are on fire in this thread my friend!

Thanks 12piece

It keeps coming back to the simple geometry. Schools give geometry a bad name. Seeing everything move in motion in alignment is just truely beautiful sight. Hey even hackers strokes have a certain charm - seeing broken machines spurting out and skattering balls through an endless set of compensations.

I recon I could beat alot of the real felt rippers I see in pool halls (esp with 8-ball where I could play alot of tactics) if I stood on the table and played with any golf club....lol. Can you imagine the killer break...lol