Martin Hall on "the Golf Channel" - LynnBlakeGolf Forums

Martin Hall on "the Golf Channel"

The Clubhouse Lounge

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 10-23-2006, 05:13 AM
chestnuts chestnuts is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Victoria
Posts: 15
Well when a TGM based organisation is spending 5 million a year on advertising on the golf channel would you expect that they have other TGM based info on there?

And given the rapid Spread on TGM worldwide courtesy of sites like this one and the work of other visionaries around the world TGM will only continue to grow and prosper.

Homer was right we as teachers indeed do have a responsibility to spread the word for as LYNN says it's time is NOW.

Last edited by chestnuts : 10-23-2006 at 05:17 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 11-01-2006, 09:33 AM
KOC's Avatar
KOC KOC is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 273
A little clip
He mentioned Homer, Chuck and Ben

Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 11-01-2006, 11:32 AM
Mike O's Avatar
Mike O Mike O is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Oceanside CA
Posts: 1,398
KOC- Clip
Originally Posted by KOC
He mentioned Homer, Chuck and Ben

KOC,
Thanks for the clip- nice and convenient viewing.

One thought on Load, Store, Dump.

In regards to Accumulators you might A) Load them, B) Store the energy until the selected time comes that you want to begin to C) release that energy into the ball (dump).

But you need to:

A) understand how to store that energy- constant clubhead lag pressure. And probably understand what the Power Storage Problems can be- a few are listed in 6-D.

Load, Store, Dump- would be more of a mechanical description of the Accumulators (6-B-0)- and could be on a procedural level a terrible thought- because in regards to clubhead feel and lag pressure - from say the A)Top (Load) until B)Release and C)through impact, the procedural key would be A) Top-Load, Release-Maintain the load, through Impact- Maintain the Load. Procedurally you better not be dumping anything.

Likewise in that regard- storing isn't just stopping the BB ball from going to the other end of the shaft- storage includes the load- so if you just retain the angle and lost the load- you haven't stored the power.

Nothing against Martin- On the Golf Channel you've got a limited amount of time and the pressure of the lights- and Ben may elaborate the concept more in person, but the real issue in my mind is - "Did you catch it?- Meaning did you see how something might be mis-interpreted and did you share it with your other forum members so they might gain something"- and I'm not just referring to this clip but as an on-going policy."

Finally, And unrelated to Martin Hall's discussion as I didn't see the segment - my advice if someone were to discuss TGM on the Golf Channel or anywhere for that matter- would be to limit your area of discussion to a very specific item- and then elaborate on that item in great detail and relating that specific item to all the different areas and issues that it involves. Much more powerful, thought provoking than skimming over alot of different concepts. Such as "here's the importance of a flat left wrist"- First let's define it and what it is not, why is it important, when can it not be flat?, how do you keep it flat?, etc, etc.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 11-01-2006, 11:52 AM
12 piece bucket's Avatar
12 piece bucket 12 piece bucket is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Thomasville, NC
Posts: 4,380
Taking the Dump
Originally Posted by Mike O
KOC,
Thanks for the clip- nice and convenient viewing.

One thought on Load, Store, Dump.

In regards to Accumulators you might A) Load them, B) Store the energy until the selected time comes that you want to begin to C) release that energy into the ball (dump).

But you need to:

A) understand how to store that energy- constant clubhead lag pressure. And probably understand what the Power Storage Problems can be- a few are listed in 6-D.

Load, Store, Dump- would be more of a mechanical description of the Accumulators (6-B-0)- and could be on a procedural level a terrible thought- because in regards to clubhead feel and lag pressure - from say the A)Top (Load) until B)Release and C)through impact, the procedural key would be A) Top-Load, Release-Maintain the load, through Impact- Maintain the Load. Procedurally you better not be dumping anything.

Likewise in that regard- storing isn't just stopping the BB ball from going to the other end of the shaft- storage includes the load- so if you just retain the angle and lost the load- you haven't stored the power.

Nothing against Martin- On the Golf Channel you've got a limited amount of time and the pressure of the lights- and Ben may elaborate the concept more in person, but the real issue in my mind is - "Did you catch it?- Meaning did you see how something might be mis-interpreted and did you share it with your other forum members so they might gain something"- and I'm not just referring to this clip but as an on-going policy."

Finally, And unrelated to Martin Hall's discussion as I didn't see the segment - my advice if someone were to discuss TGM on the Golf Channel or anywhere for that matter- would be to limit your area of discussion to a very specific item- and then elaborate on that item in great detail and relating that specific item to all the different areas and issues that it involves. Much more powerful, thought provoking than skimming over alot of different concepts. Such as "here's the importance of a flat left wrist"- First let's define it and what it is not, why is it important, when can it not be flat?, how do you keep it flat?, etc, etc.
Mikey . . . This is a FANTASTIC post! You have nailed it my demented mongoloidian friend.

You are one smart cookie even if the choclate nuggets are actually x-lax.

Dumping (no pun intended) would certainly give the impression of losing the loaded pressure point pressure. Very nice post for a wackjob.

do you think that sustaining the load contributes to the ability to maintain a flat left wrist as well?
__________________
Aloha Mr. Hand

Behold my hands; reach hither thy hand
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 11-01-2006, 11:56 AM
glcoach's Avatar
glcoach glcoach is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: GA
Posts: 126
Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket


do you think that sustaining the load contributes to the ability to maintain a flat left wrist as well?
I do 12P, to me the longer you can store the easier it is to have a flat left wrist at impact as well as the finish swivel. JMO, of course.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 11-01-2006, 12:36 PM
Mike O's Avatar
Mike O Mike O is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Oceanside CA
Posts: 1,398
Flat Left Wrist
Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
do you think that sustaining the load contributes to the ability to maintain a flat left wrist as well?
I've deleted all positive comments from your post- quite frankly it scares me and makes me nervous! However, to your question- I'm assuming you know the answer- absolutely you can't lose lag pressure and have a flat left wrist in a full swing.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 11-01-2006, 11:58 AM
Yoda's Avatar
Yoda Yoda is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Atlanta, Georgia
Posts: 10,681
Release Accumulator Lag (Not Clubhead Lag)
Originally Posted by Mike O

One thought on Load, Store, Dump.

In regards to Accumulators you might A) Load them, B) Store the energy until the selected time comes that you want to begin to C) release that energy into the ball (dump).

But...

...Load, Store, Dump- would be more of a mechanical description of the Accumulators (6-B-0)- and could be on a procedural level a terrible thought- because in regards to clubhead feel and lag pressure - from say the A)Top (Load) until B)Release and C)through impact, the procedural key would be A) Top-Load, Release-Maintain the load, through Impact- Maintain the Load. Procedurally you better not be dumping anything.
Mike O is right on here. The Power Package Loading Action (Component #22) and the Power Package Release ("Unloading Action" / Component #24) specifically deal with the Loading and Unloading of Accumulator Lag.

In contrast, the Clubhead Lag and its resultant Pressure Point Pressure is never "Released" or "Unloaded" (6-B-0). That is because such Action would result in a Power Loss, not a Power Gain (6-B-0).
__________________
Yoda
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 11-01-2006, 12:16 PM
lagster lagster is offline
LBG Pro Contributor
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 848
Ball Position
As I understand this... the description of BALL POSITION given on the clip as related to Hooking and Slicing, would mainly be true for TRUE SWINGERS. THERE IS ONE POINT FOR THEM WHERE THE CLUB IS SQUARE. They move the ball UP to Draw, and BACK to Fade.

Many people, however, are HANDS MANIPULATED SWINGERS,which is not a bad thing. They usually move the ball BACK a little to DRAW.

WHAT DO YOU THINK?
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 11-01-2006, 12:40 PM
Mike O's Avatar
Mike O Mike O is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Oceanside CA
Posts: 1,398
true swinging
Originally Posted by lagster
As I understand this... the description of BALL POSITION given on the clip as related to Hooking and Slicing, would mainly be true for TRUE SWINGERS. THERE IS ONE POINT FOR THEM WHERE THE CLUB IS SQUARE. They move the ball UP to Draw, and BACK to Fade.

Many people, however, are HANDS MANIPULATED SWINGERS,which is not a bad thing. They usually move the ball BACK a little to DRAW.

WHAT DO YOU THINK?
That's right lagster- true swingers move the ball around without taking their hands off of the grip - to manuever the ball. Manipulated swingers would move the ball back for drawing, set the clubface say still facing the initial ball flight direction, then take their grip flv- essentially having a stronger grip-(that's why it's called "rotate the grip") then it's up to the golfer if they want to retain the square stance/body or adjust it to be closed so that their "powerpackage" has the same feel in relation to the body that they have for a straight shot.

Last edited by Mike O : 11-01-2006 at 12:45 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 11-14-2006, 10:54 PM
kebeal kebeal is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 32
Links
For those of you who have not seen this segment it is on youtube:

Part 1:


Part 2:
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
7-19 "Throwing" the Club agains the Lag Pressure Point and Throw-Out 12 piece bucket Emergency Room - Swingers 6 12-01-2006 10:21 PM
"Plane Golf" lagster The Golfing Machine - Advanced 21 12-27-2005 12:26 AM
Martin Hall on TGC dcg1952 The Clubhouse Lounge 45 12-26-2005 01:22 PM
Destin Golf School, "Bash on the Beach" Agenda golfingrandy Destin - Bash at the Beach 2 05-26-2005 09:56 PM
"Physics" moved to "The Lab" Bagger Lance The Golfing Machine - Advanced 0 02-08-2005 01:23 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:08 AM.


Design by Vjacheslav Trushkin, color scheme by ColorizeIt!.