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Old 11-04-2006, 08:23 PM
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First don't wait till you feel you can ask an itelligent question, cause it could be very well your question is what others are wondering about also. As they say there are no dumb questions. From my experience, I know I have to be in the top 10 for what may be considered a dumb question, but each time I am surprised at the helpful, KIND, responses. We are all learning..

I would say the idea of driving the hands down to impact would be better thought of as driving them through that position. At for me anyway, cause it is like those to try and hit the ball vs those who hit through the ball. The first way can promote quiting or might create a mental image of such.

I think you are looking for the aiming point, you might wish to do a search and see if that gives or supports what you are thinking.
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Old 11-05-2006, 12:26 AM
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Exgolfpro: From the top of my backswing, is my goal to get my hands to impact fix by traveling straight to that point?

Martee: I would say the idea of driving the hands down to impact would be better thought of as driving them through that position.

I think exgolfpro is asking is the goal, from the Top of the Backswing to Impact Fix and beyond, to have the hands travel on a straight line through his nominated points?
Would a less ambiguous answer be either Yes/No or not always? If so, can someone tell us which is correct please?

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Old 11-05-2006, 11:08 AM
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Strav,
Thanks for your response. I guess my question was two fold. Is impact the end of the line for conscious manipulation AND, as you questioned, is it a straight line move? Thanks.
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Old 11-05-2006, 01:37 PM
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I think that straight line delivery path is an expression that can lead to confusion ... I am confused ...

Using various pro swings on V1 software, I have plotted a consistent part of hand ( pp3) or butt of club on the downswing and there are no straight lines when viewed from face on. There are curves of varying radius but no consistent straight line as one might imagine from looking at the images in 10-23-A.

I have read somewhere that this straight line is actually the line of thrust for directing pp3. This seems to make sense BUT 10-23-0 reads "...these paths are actually the paths taken by the hands - not the clubhead"

I would be grateful if someone could provide images of this true staright line delivery path.

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Old 11-05-2006, 03:32 PM
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Yoda already showed us exactly where the delivery line is and how to locate it. Watch the video named Dowels_wedges.
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Old 11-06-2006, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by golfbulldog
I think that straight line delivery path is an expression that can lead to confusion ... I am confused ...

Using various pro swings on V1 software, I have plotted a consistent part of hand ( pp3) or butt of club on the downswing and there are no straight lines when viewed from face on. There are curves of varying radius but no consistent straight line as one might imagine from looking at the images in 10-23-A.

I have read somewhere that this straight line is actually the line of thrust for directing pp3. This seems to make sense BUT 10-23-0 reads "...these paths are actually the paths taken by the hands - not the clubhead"

I would be grateful if someone could provide images of this true staright line delivery path.

Thanks
Count me in here. IMO, straight line is primarily a mental image and not physically achieveable in a dynamic golf stroke. I have also looked for a true straight line using V1 and it doesn't exist with any pros that I looked at.
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Old 11-06-2006, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Sonic_Doom
Count me in here. IMO, straight line is primarily a mental image and not physically achieveable in a dynamic golf stroke. I have also looked for a true straight line using V1 and it doesn't exist with any pros that I looked at.
I have seen the video where Yoda uses the dowels to show straight line but i am still not convinced that the hands follow this path... i , like you SonicDoom, am waiting for evidence... thrust direction may be straight line feeling but hands travel in curves.

Maybe if viewed down the line the hands might go in a straight line?
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Old 11-06-2006, 04:53 PM
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The Straight Line Delivery Path, which is made possible by Hip Slide and correct Axis Tilt will allow the hands to move in a straight line, but only for a short distance from Top 8-6 to approximately Downstroke 8-8. The Delivery Path directs the thrust at a specific Aiming Point on the Plane Line.

It maximizes the effect of the Endless Belt Effect.
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I have prepared this photo for you in the hope that it may answer your question.



I chose a swing video of Tiger Woods where the camera was positioned at an angle, that would be more-or-less in line with the direction the hands would follow on their path to their impact location. I then used a spline tool to trace the hand arc path.

You can see that the hand arc path is U-shaped. It is impossible for the left hand to travel in a straight line in a full golf swing - because the left hand is merely the end of the left arm lever, which is swinging from a fulcrum point (left shoulder socket joint). Theoretically, the left hand should swing in a circular arc - if the left shoulder remained stationary in space. However, during the downswing, the left shoulder socket (fulcrum point for the left arm lever) is moving down-out-forward and that changes a circular hand arc path into an U-shaped handarc path.

However, as Yoda stated, it "feels" like one is pulling the hands down in a straight line thrust direction towards an aiming point.

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Old 11-06-2006, 04:47 AM
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Strav,
Thanks for your response. I guess my question was two fold. Is impact the end of the line for conscious manipulation AND, as you questioned, is it a straight line move? Thanks.

There seems to be some reluctance to give you a simple yes or no answer.
Why you are being directed elsewhere to perhaps misinterpret something that you may have already seen is beyond me.
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