Who in the world is this freakin' Hacker???
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11-15-2006, 05:39 PM
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Who in the world is this freakin' Hacker???
This guy SUX!!!!!
Check it out in motion . . .
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11-15-2006, 05:48 PM
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This video was shot by Trig during a personal lesson on a cold day over two years ago. He had his handheld sony, no tripod, and if you watch the video he was moving around alot. The video is in our gallery.
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12-02-2006, 03:25 PM
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What's My Line?
Ahhh, that would be me, 12piece. Unfortunately, the lines you see were incorrectly drawn by a competitor (to 'prove' a point) and thus misrepresent what is actually happening.
I've asked Mathew to get the job done right, and he will soon post an accurate version.
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12-02-2006, 04:57 PM
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I tried my best to sort out the distortions made. The adjustments have made it closer to the reality but again you have to remember the picture is of a really horrible quality standard and the camera was not set up to get the clearest view without perspective problems....
Although I have to say that you should pay close attention to the grass line on the first picture. The uneven tilt between pics 1 and 2, and the even tilt between 2 and 3, whilst I sorted out the pics so the line between the feet was directly horizontal using the second picture - you may want to notice that the exact same adjustment on the first picture is not. It could just be the handheld camera changing slightly...
The lines of the tripod are just extremely poorly drawn -- for width, they should reference the heels and not the toes (especially the 'opened' left toe).
Now if I took out this tilt of the first picture - the first picture of the head would veer probably right on the center of the tripod....
The camera isn't even properly face on or level, the quality is just terribly awful and ghosty sequence that only someone with an 'agenda' would use.
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12-02-2006, 09:51 PM
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The Point that is Proved
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Originally Posted by Yoda
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Ahhh, that would be me, 12piece. Unfortunately, the lines you see were incorrectly drawn by a competitor (to 'prove' a point) and thus misrepresent what is actually happening.
I've asked Mathew to get the job done right, and he will soon post an accurate version.
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If a competitor has to go through this to prove a point, the only point it proves is that LBG is doing something right!
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12-02-2006, 10:47 PM
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Here is the original on Youtube:
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12-02-2006, 10:57 PM
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The Stationary Post
1-L- #1
"The Stationary Post (player's head) accurately returns the Clubhead to the ball (Centered Arc)."
1-L- #2
"The Post may turn (Pivot) but it does not 'sway' or 'bob.'"
Now....
You either accept these Foundation Stones of The Golfing Machine -- axioms, actually -- or you do not.
Some do.
Some don't.
As always, it is the player's option.
The great Harry Vardon had something to say on this subject.
Stay tuned.
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12-02-2006, 11:47 PM
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Back To the Future With Harry Vardon
From The Complete Golfer (1905) by Harry Vardon.
Open Champion, 1896, 1898, 1899, 1903.
American Champion, 1900.
"The head should be kept perfectly motionless from the time of the address until the ball has been sent away and is well on its flight. The least deviation from this rule means a proportionate danger of disaster.
When a drive has been badly foozled, the readiest and most usual explanation is that the eye has been taken off the ball, and the wise old men who have been watching shake their heads solemnly, and utter that parrot-cry of the links, "Keep your eye on the ball." Certainly this is a good and neccessary rule so far as it goes; but I do not believe that one drive in a hundred is missed because the eye has not been kept on the ball.
On the other hand, I believe that one of the most fruitful causes of failure with the tee shot is the moving of the head. Until the ball has gone, it should, as I say, be as nearly perfectly still as possible, and I would have written that it should not be moved to the extent of a sixteeenth of an inch, but for the fact that it is not human to be so still, and golf is always inclined to the human side."
But, if you want, go ahead and move your head.
Back and forth.
Or up and down.
Or -- double your pleasure -- do both!
Or neither.
Your call.
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12-03-2006, 01:02 AM
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Thanks Yoda
I love your comment on, "Double your pleasure and do both!!!"
Your support information from sources such as Homer himself and Mr. Vardon are more than enough, but I would like to point out when I'm at a PGA golf event live, I'm amazed at how many of the pros heads do not move at all!
Also, Ted Fort's water bottle movie would be very difficult if you had some sway or turning around the base of the neck.
Just some insights from a TGM youngling.
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12-03-2006, 04:22 AM
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To draw the lines correctly the line from inside the heel to the inside of the heel - it must be perfectly horizontal as you can manage when setting up the camera.
I untilted the picture and drew a perfectly horizontal line and then a drew a vertical line directly half way... then I drew a line vertically from the tip of the false tripod and then drew a line between the two reference points which show the amount of tilt (as they were horizontal before the picture was untilted). Yes, that few degrees out and you might as well have not drawn the lines in the first place.
I often wonder if alot of people think that pictures aren't easily be fudged....and it is easy to do if you don't do them right either by ignorance or other reasons.
As a point (and I could do a better job if this wasn't a superfast attempt) I wanted to show how you can manipulate anything if you want to. This is the equivalent of the original sequence!
Hey Lynn, your head moved forwards....
PS: I do plan to go over the original video at some point and I WILL remove all doubt if any 'deliberate' doctoring that cannot be part of any ignorance is found...I'll do it over next couple of days if can...
Last edited by Mathew : 12-03-2006 at 04:47 AM.
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