Angel Cabrera : TGM Analysis

[nuke99]

Punch elbow from drivers to irons. His arm doesn't Freewheel to a finish like swingers (sergio, his good buddy Eduardo ,) more "holding out" look.. due to hitter arm support on the primary assembly, especially in the irons. Arms wide apart at TOP of backswing and throughswing.
The difference of hitting and swinging is the active use of Accumulator 1 .

The way he uses his body on driver resembles of a swinger . and he have a long back swing for a hitter... so... 4 barrel cracker hittah.

Though I must admit, I only seen few swing from the recorded telecast.. so ^^.

And being bias.. Look at his distance.. ! lol


Hitter can snap release if he want.. but I am not sure he did...What do you base on?

[danny_shank]

nuke99 he may have same right forearm thrust to make him a four barrel. But to me he treats the club a lot more like a rope than an axe, he also seems to rotate his palms to the plane and has a snap release.

[nuke99]

A hitter still need the Pivot transport. The left side can only pull the left arm.. It cannot push no matter what. Does that make them a swinger? Look at my sig... taken year back.. Lynn say I am Hitting .. ( and i thought i am swinging, he is right because my forearm is active ) lol. Over the top too !

There is no word called switting in the TGM book , Nor I implying he is using Incompatible component. Therefore IMHO, there is only Hitting or Swinging.

He uses Accumulator 1,thus the elbow become active power. How is that differentiated when the elbow knows only to bend and unbend... ?

Is it "feasible" to let the centrifugal take over or throwout when the accumulator 1 is active and the arms assembly is stiffen by the accumulator 1+ extensor action ( which he does not use alot) supporting the primary assembly?

Centrifugal throwout works on a flail or a stiff piston assembly ( axe) ? Depending on how we use the term and classifying them.

And... Treating the club as a rope or an axe is not the way to differentiate hitting or swinging IMO... its just an analogy.

[danny_shank]

Well he may have his right elbow in a push position but he also drags the club away at start up, throws it onto pp #3 at end then appears to drag the club down longitudinally storing loads of accumulator #2 very deep into the impact zone with a snap release.

I think it's a large assumption to make that his power source in accumulator #1.

[12 piece bucket]

I went slow mo on a couple of swings for him. I t-bo or what-the-heck-ever-you-cal-it.

It looked drive out to me. I don't think you are going to see many "pure" hitters from a chapter 12 perspective other than TeddyKnockthecrapoutofit. Most of those guys don't know and don't care what their pattern is.

It looked like Right Arm Acceleration to me big time . . . but I'm just a mongoloid from the shallow end of the gene pool.

Maybe there's a swing vision out there for him . . .

[danny_shank]

Maybe there's a swing vision out there for him . . .

I checked on youtube and couldn't find one.

Maybe he is a hitter, i don't know anymore spent too much time on this thread as it is. But if he is a hitter then nobody is safe...

[12 piece bucket]

There's one swing from Cabrera here . . . can't tell much . . . but this is a cool klip.

[mb6606]

IMHO
He goes way past end point at the top plus an active left wrist = swinger.
Lots of right arm extensor action through impact.

Indicates how weak the TV coverage was that no one has posted a slo mo swing on Youtube.

[nuke99]

This is the classical case of people thinking the world is split into PURE One plane swing or two plane swing (hybrid planer too funny).Hitter or swinging in TGM. "they must posses a special trait , move or component to be pure"

'in TGM Pure Hitter or Pure swinger and must follow 24 component set out by TGM', that is not the intention of TGM, TGM is a catalogue with a guildline. Hitter and swinger are are mechanical actions. Either using Centrifugal throwout, Or muscular drive and it cannot be both since Accumulator 1 replaces the centrifugal throwout. Safe to say, Accumulator 1 = the muscular drive in ALL HITTER.

There are more hitters in the tour imaginable because its easier to control the hinge action with hitting. And its more powerful ( my opinion) for stronger people. And players are Stronger than ever.

Sequential release ( NOT tom watson, colin Mog.), SNAP release(NOT tom watson /jack), Horizontal hinge ( NOT Colin, Hogan, Bobby Clampet ), lagging takeaway( macogrady the hitter use that) , long backswing ,RHYTHM, TEMPO(Hogan and Sergio and Ochoa swing HARD , Stuart appleby the hitter look smooth and easy) are not limited to swingers nor exclusive ..

I simply stop thinking that the Hitting and swinging patterns set out in TGM chapter 12 are the "best" and "ideal" in the golfdom, the book will be as thin as the plane truth for golf if it is, because he would not have to catalogue it and gave us CHOICES. Its just a guildline what Homer Kelly thinks is a start, l would give him a PM if he is still alive. But Homer Kelly said it, He didn't care what we do, as long as we understands why we do it for.

People just love to see black and white, absolute, stereotype.

[mb6606]

The hitter carries the club up and carries it down - I do not see Angel doing that. He is swinging the club. It could be a right arm swing but hard to see from the camera angle.