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Old 01-26-2008, 12:18 PM
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Alright dude . . . here's what you need to watch a side by side . . .

You can skip to about the 8 minute mark and then you'll see the difference for yourself what I'm talking about . . .

High clubhead vs. sweepy clubhead . . . AND the dude is hitting a shot outta the rough . . .



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Old 01-26-2008, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket View Post
Alright dude . . . here's what you need to watch a side by side . . .

You can skip to about the 8 minute mark and then you'll see the difference for yourself what I'm talking about . . .

High clubhead vs. sweepy clubhead . . . AND the dude is hitting a shot outta the rough . . .



First, Both Swings are awesome. Thank you for sharing them.

Second, The commentator shouldn't be talking about something he utterly knows nothing about.

Third, What you think you are seeing is not what they are doing.

Tiger's Hip Center is 2" ahead of his ball location and his Head is dead on the Ball at impact.
Zach's Hip center is dead on the Ball at Impact Location and his head is 2" behind the Ball.
Though Zach moved to his left side perfectly, Tiger moves slightly more.

Zach has a very small #3 Accumulator angle. Tiger's is greater. Tiger can do that because he has higher hand speed. It looks like zach is sweeping compared to Tiger. But, he's not. For you, it's just not having enough information availble to analyze the comparison. Now you do. However, you're ten times more knowlegable than that commentator.

They both have a Straight-Line Delivery Path. Tiger's is slightly more vertical. Zach has textbook form. So does Tiger. TGM Textbook (in this video anyway).
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Old 01-26-2008, 02:46 PM
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Daryl . . . New Thread Started . . . Class is in session . . . Bring your note book #2 pencil . . . and no putting boogers under the desk!!!
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Old 01-27-2008, 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Daryl View Post
First, Both Swings are awesome. Thank you for sharing them.

Second, The commentator shouldn't be talking about something he utterly knows nothing about.

Third, What you think you are seeing is not what they are doing.

Tiger's Hip Center is 2" ahead of his ball location and his Head is dead on the Ball at impact.
Zach's Hip center is dead on the Ball at Impact Location and his head is 2" behind the Ball.
Though Zach moved to his left side perfectly, Tiger moves slightly more.

Zach has a very small #3 Accumulator angle. Tiger's is greater. Tiger can do that because he has higher hand speed. It looks like zach is sweeping compared to Tiger. But, he's not. For you, it's just not having enough information availble to analyze the comparison. Now you do. However, you're ten times more knowlegable than that commentator.

They both have a Straight-Line Delivery Path. Tiger's is slightly more vertical. Zach has textbook form. So does Tiger. TGM Textbook (in this video anyway).
Daryl,

You make it sound like #3 works like #2. Is that right? Aren't they always talking about pulley size and hand speed? Pulley is #2, right? And those discussions are always about hitting the ball the same distance----bigger pulley requires faster handspeed to acheive same distance. How does hand speed affect ability to transfer power through #3? If I have a big #3, do I have to swing my arms slow to get it around the corner? Or can I just rotate my left arm faster? Really confusing. Let me know.
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Old 01-28-2008, 12:38 PM
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Hip Center
What is the hip center? Is it the seam on the pants? How does it
relate to the center of body mass talked about in the "final missing
piece"? Does the edge of the hip go past the ball to get the
center of mass next to the left leg? Or does the the 45 degree
backward hip turn get the hips even with the ball? Would be nice
for V.J. to comment on these questions.
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