right elbow at top of swing

[Daryl]

That's pretty normal. I wouldn't tell Couples that he needs to get his right elbow closer to his rib cage at the top of the swing or tell Hogan that he needs to get his right elbow further away from the rib cage. Experimenting for a little bit doesn't really hurt, but you do have to trust that your natural motion may be the best way for you and that trying somebody else's motion because it looks prettier or whatever could be a disaster.





3JACK

Natural Motion?

Who said:

Reverse every natural instinct and do the opposite of what you are inclined to do, and you will probably come very close to having a perfect golf swing.

Is Pole Vaulting natural? A Football Block? Hammer Throw? Is a Back Flip Natural? Each of these things need to be learned and practiced. Added together they don't amount to 1/10th the complexity of a Golf Swing.

Who Said:

It is a difficult game, in that total perfection is virtually unattainable because the Golf Stroke is fantastically complex and implacably demanding of mechanical precision – whether consciously or subconsciously applied – and ruthlessly deviates with every slightest stretching of tolerances during application.

And:

Treating a complex subject or action as though it were simple, multiplies its complexity because of the difficulty in systematizing missing and unknown factors and elements. Demanding that golf instruction be kept simple does not make it simple – only incomplete and ineffective. Unless this is recognized, golf remains vague, frustrating, infuriating form of exertion.

And:

I asked my good friend, Arnold Palmer how I could improve my game, he advised me to Cheat!

[Richie3Jack]

So, would you advise Jack and Freddy if they came to you for advise to get their right elbow closer to their rib cage? Or would you tell Hogan that he needs some space there between the rib cage and the right elbow?




3JACK

[Daryl]

So, would you advise Jack and Freddy if they came to you for advise to get their right elbow closer to their rib cage? Or would you tell Hogan that he needs some space there between the rib cage and the right elbow?

3JACK

Nah. I would tell them to see you for advice on getting in touch with their natural swings.

[Richie3Jack]

Nah. I would tell them to see you for advice on getting in touch with their natural swings.

Well, perhaps if you read what I typed

'Experimenting for a little bit doesn't really hurt, but you do have to trust that your natural motion may be the best way for you.'

I'm just curious as to what your thoughts would be if Jack or Fred or Ben came to you and started asking about the right elbow at the top of the swing? Would you tell them to reverse every natural instinct?

I just don't think your quotes from the book really apply to the situation at hand, not to forget that you took my quote out of context.




3JACK

[Daryl]

Well, perhaps if you read what I typed

'Experimenting for a little bit doesn't really hurt, but you do have to trust that your natural motion may be the best way for you.'

I'm just curious as to what your thoughts would be if Jack or Fred or Ben came to you and started asking about the right elbow at the top of the swing? Would you tell them to reverse every natural instinct?

I just don't think your quotes from the book really apply to the situation at hand, not to forget that you took my quote out of context. 3JACK

The first quote is from Ben Hogan. The last is from Bob Hope.

They would tell me that I'm crazy if I thought that they spent 10,000's of hours and millions of balls to perfect something that came natural. They would say "what's natural about a swing in which 90% of the players can't break 100".

Do ya really want Natural? "Natural" is to swing the Clubhead and hit the back of the ball toward the Target. "Natural" is steering, bobbing, swaying etc.

Natural? Nothing Natural about a swing that takes a lifetime to achieve. Live it, eat it, drink it, sleep it. Nothing Natural about it.