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[KevCarter]

Hi Kev,

Thanks for the reply.

I am interested in purchasing "Alignment Golf". However, do you know if there is a digital version, as I'm not keen on paying postage from the U.S to Australia.

Regarding the ISG website, is there a listing of TGM instructors on there or should I ask in the forums? The official TGM website only listed one TGM instructor located in Australia (who was in Melbourne, Victoria).

I would ask on the forums. There are many great teachers of TGM around the world who aren't listed on TGM's website.

Good Luck!

Kevin

[BC85]

Hi Kev,

Thanks for replying (again).

I will go ahead and ask on the ISG forums regarding a TGM instructor located in NSW. In the meantime, I have purchased the TGM related videos through the Peter Croker website. I would have liked to purchase "Alignment Golf" but would prefer a digital downloadable version that is instantly accessible. Hopefully, Lynn will do this for "Alignment Golf II".

In my original post I asked "what are the main areas I should be working on currently?" What I should have been asking is "based on my current golf swing, should I adopt a hitting or swinging basic pattern?" Do you have any thoughts on if I would be better suited to hitting or swinging?

As always, your help is greatly appreciated.

Edit: I just noticed that Lynn recommended learning the basic swinging pattern before the basic hitting pattern, so I'll start with 12-2-0.

[BC85]

I would have liked to purchase "Alignment Golf" but would prefer a digital downloadable version that is instantly accessible. Hopefully, Lynn will do this for "Alignment Golf II".

Well, I have no willpower as I went ahead and purchased "Alignment Golf" anyway. Hopefully, international postage doesn't take too long.

[GPStyles]

Its normally very quick BC85 so you shouldn't be waiting too long.

I have to say that the physical version to me is much better than if there was a digital version mainly because you can stick it in the DVD player!

It may be worthwhile purchasing the Brian Gay stroke fundamntals digital video but I have to admit that despite owning it for 3 or more years I have never watched it fully!

[KevCarter]

BC85,

I wouldn't presume to try to diagnose a swing change for you based upon 1 video, without seeing ball flight. You have a very nice action!

Swinging and hitting can be a "feel" thing as much as being mechanical. There are many aspects of both that are very similar, and some of the differences are not very pronounced. In my opinion, it's more important to understand the components one by one, until you understand them enough to start putting them together into a pattern. Start by trying to determine if you mainly feel like you are pulling with your left side, or pushing with your right.

A LOT of fog will be lifted when you get your Alignment Golf DVDs. You will watch them over and over!

If I could boldly make one observation on your swing, study Hula-Hula and listen to how YODA discusses the hip bump at start down. Its a very small movement, but an incredibly important one. At start down, the left hip must get over the left foot, that's all there is to weight shift. This must happen before the hips start turing, and the shoulders should never get forward of your hips.

Kevin

Hi Kev,

Thanks for replying (again).

I will go ahead and ask on the ISG forums regarding a TGM instructor located in NSW. In the meantime, I have purchased the TGM related videos through the Peter Croker website. I would have liked to purchase "Alignment Golf" but would prefer a digital downloadable version that is instantly accessible. Hopefully, Lynn will do this for "Alignment Golf II".

In my original post I asked "what are the main areas I should be working on currently?" What I should have been asking is "based on my current golf swing, should I adopt a hitting or swinging basic pattern?" Do you have any thoughts on if I would be better suited to hitting or swinging?

As always, your help is greatly appreciated.

Edit: I just noticed that Lynn recommended learning the basic swinging pattern before the basic hitting pattern, so I'll start with 12-2-0.

[KevCarter]

I forgot to mention, I really like the Croker/Hart videos as well. Paul Hart does most of the explaining in those videos. He hangs out here as well and is VERY compatible with the teachings you will find here with YODA. Paul Hart follows Mr. Kelley's main tenant that there is no right, wrong or best, do what you enjoy, have fun!

A great quote from TheDart when discussing -L the Machine Concept:

FEEL FROM MECHANICS
The biggest lesson I ever learned was, not, whether it works or not, but, if it makes mechanical sense, do it ‘till it does work. The day of smoke and mirrors is gone. Gimmicks are gone. Fundamentals have nothing to do with trial and error.

Being in Australia, I believe you should try to make the trip to Sydney to see Paul just as we in the states want to travel to Georgia to see YODA.

Kevin

Hi Kev,

Thanks for replying (again).

I will go ahead and ask on the ISG forums regarding a TGM instructor located in NSW. In the meantime, I have purchased the TGM related videos through the Peter Croker website. I would have liked to purchase "Alignment Golf" but would prefer a digital downloadable version that is instantly accessible. Hopefully, Lynn will do this for "Alignment Golf II".

In my original post I asked "what are the main areas I should be working on currently?" What I should have been asking is "based on my current golf swing, should I adopt a hitting or swinging basic pattern?" Do you have any thoughts on if I would be better suited to hitting or swinging?

As always, your help is greatly appreciated.

Edit: I just noticed that Lynn recommended learning the basic swinging pattern before the basic hitting pattern, so I'll start with 12-2-0.

[BC85]

It may be worthwhile purchasing the Brian Gay stroke fundamntals digital video but I have to admit that despite owning it for 3 or more years I have never watched it fully!

Well, if you ever get around to watching it be sure to let me know how it is.

Swinging and hitting can be a "feel" thing as much as being mechanical. There are many aspects of both that are very similar, and some of the differences are not very pronounced. In my opinion, it's more important to understand the components one by one, until you understand them enough to start putting them together into a pattern. Start by trying to determine if you mainly feel like you are pulling with your left side, or pushing with your right.

Thanks for your explanation. In regards to pulling with the left or pushing with the right, I feel that on the down swing I start pulling with the left and before impact I start pushing with the right. I am unsure if this is actuality or simply sensation.

If I could boldly make one observation on your swing, study Hula-Hula and listen to how YODA discusses the hip bump at start down. Its a very small movement, but an incredibly important one. At start down, the left hip must get over the left foot, that's all there is to weight shift. This must happen before the hips start turing, and the shoulders should never get forward of your hips.

I would say that is a really good observation, Kevin. I have struggled to understand the lateral move that the hips must perform at the start of the down swing. Everytime I experimented, it felt as if I had excessive axis tilt. This was certainly my downfall whilst experimenting with "Stack and Tilt".

Being in Australia, I believe you should try to make the trip to Sydney to see Paul just as we in the states want to travel to Georgia to see YODA.

I assumed Paul Hart was located in Victoria (like Peter Croker). However, if he is in Sydney (New South Wales) then that would be ideal. I tried doing a Google search to see if he had a website with contact details and pricing, but had no luck. What is Paul's username on this forum? Hopefully, he won't mind if I PM him.

Thanks so much for all your help, Kevin. This forum is such a great resource.

[KevCarter]

The best way to catch Paul is on iSeek. His handle there is TheDart. He interacts a lot over there, in fact is one of the founders of the forum. I'm sorry, I was thinking earlier the Melbourne was in New South Wales rather than Victoria. Never very good with geography. I spent a summer in Melbourne as an exchange student, I should know better. Paul is indeed in Sydney!

Your comment:

I feel that on the down swing I start pulling with the left and before impact I start pushing with the right. I am unsure if this is actuality or simply sensation.

I think most teachers would agree with that comment 100%, in fact many would say there is no pure swinger, or no pure hitter. That's why I called it a "feel" thing, you can't argue someones "feel" and I don't care to debate the golf swing. OPTIONS!

Please let us know if you get to see our friend Paul!

Kevin

Well, if you ever get around to watching it be sure to let me know how it is.


Thanks for your explanation. In regards to pulling with the left or pushing with the right, I feel that on the down swing I start pulling with the left and before impact I start pushing with the right. I am unsure if this is actuality or simply sensation.


I would say that is a really good observation, Kevin. I have struggled to understand the lateral move that the hips must perform at the start of the down swing. Everytime I experimented, it felt as if I had excessive axis tilt. This was certainly my downfall whilst experimenting with "Stack and Tilt".


I assumed Paul Hart was located in Victoria (like Peter Croker). However, if he is in Sydney (New South Wales) then that would be ideal. I tried doing a Google search to see if he had a website with contact details and pricing, but had no luck. What is Paul's username on this forum? Hopefully, he won't mind if I PM him.

Thanks so much for all your help, Kevin. This forum is such a great resource.

[GPStyles]

At the risk of running foul of Admin for posting Darty's details, his signature on iseek reads:

For tuition in Sydney call Paul Hart (TheDart} 0412 070 820.

Terry Hill’s, St. Michael’s or Milperra Driving Range


My signature reads:

The biggest lesson I ever learned was, not, whether it works or not, but, if it makes mechanical sense, do it ‘till it does work.

The day of smoke and mirrors is gone. Gimmicks are gone. Fundamentals have nothing to do with trial and error

The Dart

[KevCarter]

At the risk of running foul of Admin for posting Darty's details, his signature on iseek reads:

For tuition in Sydney call Paul Hart (TheDart} 0412 070 820.

Terry Hill’s, St. Michael’s or Milperra Driving Range


My signature reads:

The biggest lesson I ever learned was, not, whether it works or not, but, if it makes mechanical sense, do it ‘till it does work.

The day of smoke and mirrors is gone. Gimmicks are gone. Fundamentals have nothing to do with trial and error

The Dart

GP, one of my favorite quotes! I copied the same one in a PM to Ben.

Kevin