Hogan Right Shoulder Motion Elbow Plane Hitter

[chipingguru]

I think I heard Yoda on one of his videos that the idea of dropping the right shoulder way down to induce the hip action is a "perverted attempt" at proper zone one action.

I wonder if this is what he was referring to.

[KevCarter]

Good memory Chipinguru!

I remember that as well. I think he was referring to dropping the right shoulder creating more axis tilt at start down. I think this new theory of Mr. Bucket is Mr. Hogan's prescription to cure that very problem. This idea - alignment - "feel" would help you stay on top of the ball the way YODA does. Purely my opinion... I hope YODA jumps in to give us the blessing before I go ALL IN!

Kevin

[KevCarter]

Another thing I notice from 12 Pieces pictures. Hogan holds the #2 and #3 PA angles for a long time, we all knew that. But it looks to me like he starts releasing #4 and #1 early and incrementally. Holding them too long would make these alignments impossible, again, in my opinion. I believe there is an awful lot to learn in this and the Tear My Swing apart threads.

Sequencing. 4-1------2-3

Thanks BUCKET!

Kevin

[chipingguru]

Look how far the dang club moves from the Fourth to fifth photo, and how little the hands do. The hips open up significantly between those two intervals too.

Magnificent.

[KevCarter]

For some reason, before today's posts, I never really understood the fascination with Hogan's swing. What a bonehead I am. 12 Piece really has me fired up about it now!

Kevin

[strav]

12 Piece
Tried working on this today with very good results. Can't wait to explore it further.
Thank you for this gem.

[12 piece bucket]

Good memory Chipinguru!

I remember that as well. I think he was referring to dropping the right shoulder creating more axis tilt at start down. I think this new theory of Mr. Bucket is Mr. Hogan's prescription to cure that very problem. This idea - alignment - "feel" would help you stay on top of the ball the way YODA does. Purely my opinion... I hope YODA jumps in to give us the blessing before I go ALL IN!

Kevin

Thanks . . . . but can't take credit for this idea . . . Eddie Cox has been talking about this for awhile now . . . I just never really "got it." . . . feeling . . . connect the right shoulder to the "pocket" above the left elbow joint . . . seems to pressure the lever assembly down

[Daryl]

12 Pc, Ben Hogan was a Hitter? Really?

[12 piece bucket]

12 Pc, Ben Hogan was a Hitter? Really?

Sure why not . . . . make your case for Swinging . . .

[Daryl]

Sure why not . . . . make your case for Swinging . . .

I don't want to argue the point and It doesn't bother me if he Hit-Swung-Swat-Swit or nibbled on the ball, but are you using the glossary definitions included in the 6th Edition?

HITTING AND SWINGING Example – the catapult vs. the sling.
Mechanical – Continuous thrust producing steady acceleration of a hinged beam is Hitting action. A rotating arm pulling steadily on a weighted line is a swinging action.
Golf – Accelerating the Club radially with Right Arm Thrust is Hitting. Accelerating the Club longitudinally, with either arm is Swinging.

Maybe Hogan was a Switter?