How much Cen Force

[brownman]

Do Hogan's left hand on club check with a short thumb. It works for set-up and the whole swing or hit.

ICT

Interesting play time today,using swinging with finger grip,very neutral and really just let the cen force thing go with absolute minimal grip pressure but really forced myself to swing with shaft sitting very much in last joints on fingers,so long as my shoulders rotated fully the ball went high and long,could possibly enjoy this,nooo vibration whatsoever........have a play with it guys and give some feedback,cheers

[brownman]

I mowed our course for 5 hrs as the others cleaned up the course(working bee),after we played 4 holes....I played only with a 3 ir,1st hole bogey,2nd hole 198 mt P3 on for 1.......2nd hole P3 145 mt on, putted and got 2 with 3ir as putter...4th hloe 170mt P 3 bit long ,but chipped on and 2 putted with 3 ir,.......my point is 2 fold,1....how solid the swing was with finger grip(I must have been using too much palm grip),,2...what a great excercise....using 1 club........thought I would share

[Bumpy]

The 2HBP is the feeling of maximum radius during release. The smaller the pully the more exaggerated the feel.

Bumpy

[brownman]

The 2HBP is the feeling of maximum radius during release. The smaller the pully the more exaggerated the feel.

Bumpy

Sorry Bumpy,Im slow on the uptake here.....2HBP..?
I like the max release....cheers

[Bumpy]

2HBP = two handed basketball pass.

The smaller the pulley, the heavier the ball. I think Hogan used an 8#, if it gets to heavy I lose power. You got to be a giant if you want to make it work right. Pivot power transfer to zone 2?

I may be just rambling, thank god for Homer, Hogan too.

Bumpy

[MizunoJoe]

2HBP = two handed basketball pass.

I may be just rambling, thank god for Homer, Hogan too.

Bumpy

Thanks to Homer for getting it right when he says no hand effort toward the target, but no thanks to Hogan for his misleading 2HBP illustration in 2L, which 99 of 100 readers will take to mean a horizontal hand/arm effort through impact, i.e. steering, disrupting impact alignments, stifling CF, and distorting the arc of the clubhead.

[Bumpy]

Thanks to Homer for getting it right when he says no hand effort toward the target, but no thanks to Hogan for his misleading 2HBP illustration in 2L, which 99 of 100 readers will take to mean a horizontal hand/arm effort through impact, i.e. steering, disrupting impact alignments, stifling CF, and distorting the arc of the clubhead.

As far as the 2hbp goes, I can see the potential for disruption if using a big pulley.

AC

[innercityteacher]

Thanks to Homer for getting it right when he says no hand effort toward the target, but no thanks to Hogan for his misleading 2HBP illustration in 2L, which 99 of 100 readers will take to mean a horizontal hand/arm effort through impact, i.e. steering, disrupting impact alignments, stifling CF, and distorting the arc of the clubhead.

Thanks for the clarity MJ. Brilliant!


ICT

[O.B.Left]

Thanks to Homer for getting it right when he says no hand effort toward the target, but no thanks to Hogan for his misleading 2HBP illustration in 2L, which 99 of 100 readers will take to mean a horizontal hand/arm effort through impact, i.e. steering, disrupting impact alignments, stifling CF, and distorting the arc of the clubhead.

Here's the part of the book I believe you're alluding to. Ive taken the liberty of bolding the particular sentence of interest.

CHAPTER 2 STATEMENT OF PRINCIPLE

PAGE 34

THE FLAIL

If thrust is applied only to the Left Arm (Handle), the Clubshaft (Swingle) will perform more like a Rope Handle (rising Clubhead pull), but if prestressed by Clubhead Lag Pressure Point pressure, more like an Axe Handle (steady Clubhead Inertia). However, the Primary Lever Assembly is only somewhat flail like. That is, it is bolted together as with a hinge pin, rather than tied together with a thong, so that it can only be “Cocked” and/or “Rotated” per 4-B and 4-C and cannot pass the “Handle” (4-A-2) while moving toward full extension per 2-P. This insures the Imperative Flat Left Wrist (1-L, 2-0). Study 2-F, 6-F-0 and 10-19. As with the standard flail, the true and proper direction for its mass to move is “downward On Plane” regardless of the incidental appearance of moving “forward On Plane.” Always from the Top. This is indispensable for both Hitters and Swingers for inhibiting Clubhead Throwaway. Study 2-K and Chapter 2-P.