Trip from Maryland
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03-24-2006, 04:30 PM
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Trip from Maryland
Jim Nowotny came to see me from Maryland. Hopefully, he'll post the feelings that made these changes possible. I think you'll be surprised to hear how extreme the feelings were compared to reality. I think it's important to hear how different a correction would feel for someone that had the same problems for 20 years. Radical changes require radical measures.
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03-25-2006, 01:08 AM
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Great Stuff Ted!!!
I love it when teacher's post the changes they've made it pumps me up. You really can change some one's golf swing drastically for the better if you know what your doing!!
Now for the questions.....how did you incorporate 6-b-3-0-1 into these changes???
How long did it take to get the picture to change????
How long did it take to get some of the changes to repeat or stick or is that still work to be done????
Sorting Through the Instructor's Textbook.
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03-25-2006, 10:11 AM
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The flying wedges
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Originally Posted by bray
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Great Stuff Ted!!!
I love it when teacher's post the changes they've made it pumps me up. You really can change some one's golf swing drastically for the better if you know what your doing!!
Now for the questions.....how did you incorporate 6-b-3-0-1 into these changes???
How long did it take to get the picture to change????
How long did it take to get some of the changes to repeat or stick or is that still work to be done????
Sorting Through the Instructor's Textbook.
B-Ray
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Both of these pictures were taken on the first day about 2 1/2 hours apart. Unfortunately, it became really overcast and ruined the lighting.
The flying wedges were a major point of concern. We started with the grip and right forearm alignment. In the grip, I wanted him to have the #3 pressure point exactly on the aft side of the shaft. I gave him a couple of ways to feel it.
When his hands and right forearm were in place, we started with a couple of extreme feelings. In order to change the top, I told him he was allowed no cocking of either wrist (feel, not real) or that he had to keep both wrists uncocked (feel, not real). As expected, when he felt uncocked, his left wrist still cocked. And, as a bonus, when he felt uncocked, his extensor action was much better. Additionally, he felt as though he was using an acquired motion in the after picture. That's where the camera serves it's purpose.
Also, the clearing of the right hip had to be accomplished in start up. This changed the look of the pivot drastically.
The last important point was the finish swivel. Steering was present, and at the end of the second day, he was well on his way to feeling the swivel. His total motion became much more controlled and simple. He was able to generate plenty of force, and the finish swivel gave him an exit. I loved the way he looked when he left, and I was very proud of him having the guts to stick it out with the extreme changes. It took a little suffering with not so perfect results for some of the strokes. But, in the end, I felt the progress was impressive.
In two 4 hour sessions we changed the grip, ball position, forearm alignment, cocking of the wrists, extensor action, clearing of the hip, and finish swivel. And the compression was there without all of the previous effort. I thought he did an amazing job in incorporating all the pieces so quickly. With 20 years of doing it the other way, you'd expect him to take a little longer to change all of that.
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03-25-2006, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by YodasLuke
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Both of these pictures were taken on the first day about 2 1/2 hours apart. Unfortunately, it became really overcast and ruined the lighting.
The flying wedges were a major point of concern. We started with the grip and right forearm alignment. In the grip, I wanted him to have the #3 pressure point exactly on the aft side of the shaft. I gave him a couple of ways to feel it.
When his hands and right forearm were in place, we started with a couple of extreme feelings. In order to change the top, I told him he was allowed no cocking of either wrist (feel, not real) or that he had to keep both wrists uncocked (feel, not real). As expected, when he felt uncocked, his left wrist still cocked. And, as a bonus, when he felt uncocked, his extensor action was much better. Additionally, he felt as though he was using an acquired motion in the after picture. That's where the camera serves it's purpose.
Also, the clearing of the right hip had to be accomplished in start up. This changed the look of the pivot drastically.
The last important point was the finish swivel. Steering was present, and at the end of the second day, he was well on his way to feeling the swivel. His total motion became much more controlled and simple. He was able to generate plenty of force, and the finish swivel gave him an exit. I loved the way he looked when he left, and I was very proud of him having the guts to stick it out with the extreme changes. It took a little suffering with not so perfect results for some of the strokes. But, in the end, I felt the progress was impressive.
In two 4 hour sessions we changed the grip, ball position, forearm alignment, cocking of the wrists, extensor action, clearing of the hip, and finish swivel. And the compression was there without all of the previous effort. I thought he did an amazing job in incorporating all the pieces so quickly. With 20 years of doing it the other way, you'd expect him to take a little longer to change all of that.
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Super job! First pic looks like somebody let all the air out of 'em. Second pic = STRUCTURED.
Hey . . . could you expand a bit on the "clearing of the Right Hip at start-up?" Do you ever advised "pre-turned" hips?
Nice job!
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03-25-2006, 11:56 AM
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Bucket,
Like a lot of my swing (actually a hit) I used a false “feel” to achieve a desired “real” affect. When doing the RFP I feel like I’m moving my butt toward the target. In reality, I’m just clearing my right hip.
Jimbo…
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03-25-2006, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Jimbo
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Bucket,
Like a lot of my swing (actually a hit) I used a false “feel” to achieve a desired “real” affect. When doing the RFP I feel like I’m moving my butt toward the target. In reality, I’m just clearing my right hip.
Jimbo…
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Nice! Doin' da butt!!!! Sexy!!! Sexy!!! When ya get that notion . . . Put your backfield in motion . . . Hey!!
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03-25-2006, 10:31 AM
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Building the Golf Stroke From the Ground 'Up'
What a radical transformation in Zone #1 -- Body Control! This is where it begins.
"The Three Zones [Body, Arms, Hands] are a natural division of the action. Their identities must be maintained in teaching, practice and playing. And unless developed in sequence, a very weak 'compensated' game is inevitable."
-- Homer Kelley (9-0)
I was fortunate enough to witness the end-result of the training and am pleased to report that, even under 'gallery' pressure, Jim nailed three wonderful shots for me. Great job, Jim and Ted!
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03-25-2006, 11:07 AM
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Yeah, that’s me. That first pic makes me ill just looking at it. The one thing that I constantly struggle with is the “real” versus “feel” of my backstroke. I now feel like I’m taking a waist high backswing yet I’m crushing the ball.
Ted, first thing this morning (I just got back last night) I went to my regular driving range. Unbelievable, straight, straight, straight and still long and the finish swivel is looking and feeling much better, my left elbow thanks you.
I don’t want to be “over-the-top” but I got to tell you, for me Ted is the magic man. He can fix me so quickly it is scary. I had great and productive time down at the swamp.
Last thing, I don’t post often but I read everything, I love this place. I’ve read about some of the soap opera stuff that has been posted by competitors and I've just got to say, I know golf is also a business, but in business integrity is everything. Lynn and Ted are the real deal; they are “my kind” of people even if golf wasn’t involved. I feel very fortunate that our paths have crossed.
Enough blabbering, I can’t wait to play again!
Jimbo…
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03-25-2006, 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Jimbo
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Yeah, that’s me. That first pic makes me ill just looking at it. The one thing that I constantly struggle with is the “real” versus “feel” of my backstroke. I now feel like I’m taking a waist high backswing yet I’m crushing the ball.
Ted, first thing this morning (I just got back last night) I went to my regular driving range. Unbelievable, straight, straight, straight and still long and the finish swivel is looking and feeling much better, my left elbow thanks you.
I don’t want to be “over-the-top” but I got to tell you, for me Ted is the magic man. He can fix me so quickly it is scary. I had great and productive time down at the swamp.
Jimbo…
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Like Homer always said, "It's the people that you meet." I appreciate all the good press, but I enjoyed the experience much more than the accolades.
I believe the elbow pain will vanish, and I also believe that you'd eventually break it, if you kept doing the same thing. You generate way to much force to keep steering without having grave consequences.
Keep using the camera so you'll see what I saw. Don't assume you're doing it right. The camera won't lie to you like feelings do.
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