Annikan Skywalker - Downstroke Sequence
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03-29-2006, 11:16 PM
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It seems as though she is torquing the heck out of her back at the finish, particularly in the after. Just an observation, not a response to the question posed per se.
Matt
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03-30-2006, 02:00 AM
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Ya the lower body seems to have changed.....more hip turn....seems more grounded at Imapact too....although it's tough to tell.
As a result, she seems to have a Tripod going now...
I don't see anything else.
Does she hit it better?
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03-30-2006, 02:38 AM
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I'm not a TGM or PGA certified Pro, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night
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03-30-2006, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by plumdog
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the hips have moved forward more and turned more degrees on the backswing, thereby resuling in a greater degree of freedom for the shoulder turn. the 2nd tilt(spine angle is more vertical at the top of the backswing and the shoulder turn is more centered(comparison of 1st pictures). the left shoulder is more forward as a result in the comparison of the 2nd pictures and the 2nd axis tilt is thereby less as it was a function of the backswing.this is also noticable in the tilt of the shoulders in the first picture on the bottom. the reduction of the 2nd axis tilt combined with the overall cog more forward will slow the rate of closure of the clubface at impact. as both lower and upper centers are more forward the hips press upward reducing the the flex in the right knee impact and next to last pics on bottom). this sequence is far superior to the lower and some sophisticated instruction wet into changing those pictures
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plumdog- interesting read, real food for thought ... your description of the "hips pressing upward" reminded me of a debate on the old tgm site about "releasing the tailbone" ... MORAD adherents advocated it, while the opinion of the TGM purists was that you can't release something that hasn't had a load placed on it and that the only way to "release" the tailbone was to literally stand up ... can you offer any insight on this difference of opinion? thanks.
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05-02-2006, 11:23 PM
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Annikan,
I am curious if you hit the ball further with the swing or hit? Also, given your background in biomechanics, I am curious if you know the amount of compression (especially twisting torque) the lower back is subjected to with a hit and with a swing. I'm not looking for specific numbers, just wondering if one may be quite a bit better for the back than the other.
Thanks,
Matt
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05-03-2006, 03:07 PM
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Not a Biomechanics expert..but swinger's who maximize a transfer of angular momentum create more torque using sequential joint motion...for me Swinging by 30 of the Tee and 10-12 per iron!!!! Probably because I never drove the club heavy enough!!!!!
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05-03-2006, 09:23 PM
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Wow, 30 yards on the driver! Thank you very much Annikan!
Matt
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07-02-2006, 09:21 PM
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Expert analysis by the "Plumdog"...interested to hear what plumbdog thinks of this old dog's move from the late 90's to now...Since he helped build it!!!
]Here's my Swing
as compared to my Hit

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07-02-2006, 10:11 PM
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Translation please
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Originally Posted by plumdog
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the hips have moved forward more and turned more degrees on the backswing, thereby resuling in a greater degree of freedom for the shoulder turn. the 2nd tilt(spine angle is more vertical at the top of the backswing and the shoulder turn is more centered(comparison of 1st pictures). the left shoulder is more forward as a result in the comparison of the 2nd pictures and the 2nd axis tilt is thereby less as it was a function of the backswing.this is also noticable in the tilt of the shoulders in the first picture on the bottom. the reduction of the 2nd axis tilt combined with the overall cog more forward will slow the rate of closure of the clubface at impact. as both lower and upper centers are more forward the hips press upward reducing the the flex in the right knee impact and next to last pics on bottom). this sequence is far superior to the lower and some sophisticated instruction wet into changing those pictures
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Annikan,
Can you please translate the above 'expert explanation' into English?
Whoever wrote this wrote it with zero regard for their reader. A serious and fairly technical explanation it may be, but it was written 'as if' the writer had not passed 2nd class, or had a complete disregard for those trying to grasp his concepts!
Apology for the rant!
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07-03-2006, 02:51 PM
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The above expert description is dead on.....It sounds more like MORADOLOGY than Homerology...Cryptic translation to come after the kids take a nap!!!
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