This sounds like a forced introduction to the effect of elbow location.
Bumpy
It sure works well!
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This sounds like a forced introduction to the effect of elbow location.
Bumpy
Simply a bona fide Hit with Pivot carrying my right arm way down, bicep pressure can travel till the last moment before I piston the right arm. Bicep flex keeps elbow to body to brace the thrust. Currently playing East TN mountain golf and getting to every hole with distance. Lots of big drives uphill and down hill.
The motion feels like a small flywheel, my elbow, being pulled or driven by my pivot than fired smoothly at a sharp angle to Both Arms Straight.
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Last edited by innercityteacher : 07-28-2012 at 01:47 AM.
Is your right arm uncocking your left wrist or supporting CF?
Bumpy
Very simple.
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Simply a bona fide Hit with .................Pivot carrying my right arm way down, bicep pressure can travel till the last moment before I piston the right arm. Bicep flex keeps elbow to body to brace the thrust..............
I am carrying the right arm down with the pivot and keeping the right elbow going down until I fire the piston. I think I am on the beginning of four-barrel hitting since I Pivot strongly before firing my right arm with a bent left wrist. I have been working with the Paul Bertholy exercises and his "magic move" trying to carry the right elbow past the plane line of the ball before firing or releasing. I just think my machine is finally becoming more effective.
I also re-learned Lynn's putting and chipping instructions from Runion the last couple days by sticking my elbows on my sides for putts and chips. Shot an 84 from the championship tees at the Brae Course in Fairfield Glades. We started off the back and I was 4 over after the first 9. Got tired and hot on the back 9. I hadn't played any of these course in two years.
The 18-hole "Brae" course at the Heatherhurst Golf Course facility in Crossville, Tennessee features 6,499 yards of golf from the longest tees for a par of 72 . The course rating is 71.2 and it has a slope rating of 126. Designed by Gary Roger Baird, ASGCA/Bobby Greenwood, the Brae golf course opened in 1989. Fairfield Glade Community Club manages this facility, with Jeff Houston as the Golf Professional/General Manager
ORCHESTER GOLF CLUB ~ 931-484-3709 ~ 18 HOLES PAR 72
DDIRECTOR OF GOLF HEAD PROFESSIONAL ASSISTANT PROFESSIONAL COURSE SUPERINTENDENT
TTEES BLUE
WHITE YELLOW RED GREEN
YYARDAGE 6382
5817 4661 4566 3670
MM RATING/SLOPE 70.6/127
68.2/121 63.5/108 62.5/103 60.2/103
WW RATING/SLOPE 74.2/128
67.7/112 67.1/111 62.0/101
And an 85 from the tips of the Crag Golf Course
The 18-hole "Crag Course" at the Heatherhurst Golf Course facility in Crossville, Tennessee features 6,171 yards of golf from the longest tees for a par of 72 . The course rating is 69.6 and it has a slope rating of 120. Designed by Gary Roger Baird, ASGCA, the Crag Course opened in 1989. Fairfield Glade Community Club manages this facility, with Jeff Houston as the Golf Professional/General Manager.
Here is the Paul Bertholy drill I am doing and I am working through his book reprinted by Doug Ferreri who seems like a very nice fellow and very interesting.
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Throughout my academic career, sometimes it's good to experience what the wrong approach is to truly value the correct or optimal approach. So, at times bad can be good!!! I guess I'm OK with one Right Triceps Thrust reference as long as any Right Forearm Thrust or Driving Right Forearm reference is not eliminated from the book. But, remember, I warned you of the potential problem with that reference. Yeee hawwwww However, if Homer was still with us, I would be the first one on an Airplane to Seattle to discuss with him.
DG
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Hey, DG! I found something you might want to see! What do you make of thisrewrite under the 7-20 Trigger Types?
"Page 109, 7-20, paragraph 2, nextto last sentence rewrite:
"Remember -- only Right Elbow Feel -- neither the Triceps or LagPressure -- can safely Monitor the Paddlewheel Motion of the straightening ofthe Right Arm for proper Clubface Closing motion (6-B-3-0-1)."
Is that more in line with what you are saying?
Whether it is or isn't, know that if Homer was still here, I'd be the first tojump on that airplane with you. But don't think for a minute you could get awaywith discussing just one thing with that guy. Asking him just one question waslike starting with the first link of a very long chain. You just keptgoing and going and going!
Also, not to worry: All the Driving Right Arms and Right ForearmThrustings of the 6th edition remain intact.
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Delaware Golf wrote:
Yoda,
No wonder Homer favored hitting and right arm action…control, control, and more control (power regulation and hinging action (ball control) become very easy to execute with skillful manipulation of the right forearm and elbow. It's amazing what a golfer can do once they understand Hinging, Power Package Loading Action and Power Package Release with right arm action, the options for the golfer are pretty dynamic, especially in the short game.
DG
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That's why The Man said (in the last paragraph of 7-3):
"All of this you will come to know as THE MAGIC OF THE RIGHTFOREARM."
(All capitals are Homer's.)
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Last edited by innercityteacher : 07-29-2012 at 10:21 PM.
However, while the Pre-Turned Right Hip is helpful to the On LineSwinger it is essential to the Cross Line Hitter. His Closed Plane Lineproduces a Cross Line Clubhead Path and with it, a Right Hip—Right Elbowconflict. This Path (and its problematic Hip—Elbow conflict) may be preciselyidentified by observing the On Plane Right Forearm Angle of Approach inImpact Fix and the parallel Clubhead Angle of Approach through Impact.And the curious fact is that your Hands simply will not take the Club backon that Line if your Right Hip is in the way. And it is! You can tell them-- out loud if you wish -- that you will move the Hip immediately in Start Up,but they will not believe you. As Homer used to say, "The Hands just won'tbuy it." And so they just 'go around' the Hip and take the Club Off Planein the process.
So, if you're going to Cross Line Hit, you must Pre-Turn theRight Hip. And since the Pre-Turned Hip is perfectly acceptable (and even advisable)for On Line Swingers as well, Homer made it the Basic Hip Action Component for bothBasic Stroke Patterns. Why should you have to spend years learning andusing Standard Hip Action -- with On Line Swinging or On Line Hitting orboth -- only to find out that the Pre-Turned Hip of Delayed Hip Action ismandated by the more sophisticated Cross Line Hit? And then be forced to startall over again learning a new Hip Action Component and then integrating itinto your Basic Pattern? Or else forego The Joy of Cross Line Hitting.
You see, Homer knew long before you did that you would be following him downthis road, and he wanted to make your transition as easy as possible.
Pretty neat, don't you think?
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Delayed Release -- Hitters Vs. Swingers
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Originally posted by MizunoJoe
I'd like to see someone duplicate, in geometry AND results, a max trigger delay, max lag Swing with a Hitting motion. I don't believe it's possible. In other words, if a player's Swing and Hitting procedure look the same AND produce essentially the same result, his Swing uses an auto or non-auto sweep release.
MJ,
Both Swingers and Hitters delay their Release for Maximum Power. This is the Sameness (1-K). The Difference is that Swingers Load and Delay the Release of their Left Wrist. Hitters Load and Delay the Release of their Right Elbow.
Many Swingers have experienced the Feel of the Delayed Left Wrist Throw. Few have ever experienced the Feel of the Delayed Right Elbow Drive. Until they do, they will simply never understand...
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