Right Forearm/Right Hand/Right Elbow in Swinging

[12 piece bucket]

What role or function does the Right Arm play in Swinging?

We are loading the Left Wrist (No. 2) . . . but the Right Arm stays Passive no? What kind of Right Arm thoughts should the Swinger have?

Are we just using the Law of the Triangle and just pulling our PASSIVE Triangle DOWNPLANE?

[6bmike]

It slings. The hands via the Flying wedges hold the club, the right shoulder cranks and throws out the arms and club. CF has no muscle power. The right shoulder power package does- as it cranks - but not the right arm.

Swingers sling.

Hitters punch.

[lagster]

It slings. The hands via the Flying wedges hold the club, the right shoulder cranks and throws out the arms and club. CF has no muscle power. The right shoulder power package does- as it cranks - but not the right arm.

Swingers sling.

Hitters punch.

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That sounds pretty good.

For Swinging... the right arm is passive. There is some right triceps activity, for Extensor a Action, and one could also trace with the right forearm. The ELBOW, however, on the downswing is not ACTIVE, as in Hitting. The arm does straighten out due to the forces.

[12 piece bucket]

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That sounds pretty good.

For Swinging... the right arm is passive. There is some right triceps activity, for Extensor a Action, and one could also trace with the right forearm. The ELBOW, however, on the downswing is not ACTIVE, as in Hitting. The arm does straighten out due to the forces.

So CF blasts the Left Arm off the chest via the Right Shoulder and also uncocks the Right Elbow and thus the Left Wrist?

So basically the Right Arm just is there to support and aim the Flail?

[Delaware Golf]

The views of the previous entires in this thread are limited. Accelerating the Club longitudinally, with either Arm, is Swinging.

There are AI's that teach both left arm swinging and right arm swinging. Uncocking the right elbow from the top offers the golfer full power (CF still uncocks the left wrist)...see 10-3-K and 10-3-D. Cheers to the Magic of the Right Forearm...see the Tomasello Letter series videos, it's all there. For a book on the TGM right arm swinging approach, see Mark Evershed's "The Golf Solution", copies are available in a left hand or a right hand version. See Mark's site at www.markevershedgolf.com

DG

[6bmike]

I live a very limited life. ..

[12 piece bucket]

The views of the previous entires in this thread are limited. Accelerating the Club longitudinally, with either Arm, is Swinging.

There are AI's that teach both left arm swinging and right arm swinging. Uncocking the right elbow from the top offers the golfer full power (CF still uncocks the left wrist)...see 10-3-K and 10-3-D. Cheers to the Magic of the Right Forearm...see the Tomasello Letter series videos, it's all there. For a book on the TGM right arm swinging approach, see Mark Evershed's "The Golf Solution", copies are available in a left hand or a right hand version. See Mark's site at www.markevershedgolf.com

DG

Cool. But I am asking in reference to the Left Arm Swing . . . I wouldn't want this thread to turn into another debate on Right Arm Swinging and TT . . . No offense but y'all have had that one numerous times.

[lagster]

So CF blasts the Left Arm off the chest via the Right Shoulder and also uncocks the Right Elbow and thus the Left Wrist?

So basically the Right Arm just is there to support and aim the Flail?

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For Standard Swinging... that sounds pretty good(4-2-3 Release). There is Right Arm Swinging, where the Right Arm is Active.

[bts]

What role or function does the Right Arm play in Swinging?

It assists (passive) or participates (active) in the pulling action against the club lag.

We are loading the Left Wrist (No. 2) . . . but the Right Arm stays Passive no? What kind of Right Arm thoughts should the Swinger have?

Create the angle between the shaft and left arm and the club "lag" (the heaviness feel). The right arm can be passive or active, as long as the job gets done. I think both arms as an "one-structure created by both arms" v.s. a "two-arm" structure being assigned different tasks.

Are we just using the Law of the Triangle and just pulling our PASSIVE Triangle DOWNPLANE?

Or pulling our "rigid" Triangle DOWNPLANE?

[Mike O]

[quote=12 piece bucket]What role or function does the Right Arm play in Swinging?
We are loading the Left Wrist (No. 2) . . . but the Right Arm stays Passive no? What kind of Right Arm thoughts should the Swinger have?

Are we just using the Law of the Triangle and just pulling our PASSIVE Triangle DOWNPLANE?[/QUOTE]

Here's where to start. You've got to differentiate what the ideal mechanical structure should be as opposed to what you are concentrating on in the swing. The difference between what you are trying to do when you are playing for instance and what you are feeling, thinking when you are working on your swing or in this particular instance the right arm if say your structure isn't very good. They are two completely different things.

So let's assume that you are happy with the structure of your power package and everything else in your movement- then what are you thinking about- i.e. trying to do- section 5-0 third and 4th paragraphs (both in the 6th and 7th editions) You are taking your hands up and down the plane- THAT's your focus- that's the Golfing Machine- don't lose sight of it.

What role or function does the Right Arm play in Swinging?
Extensor action via right triceps (That's either happening or something you would work on to add to your movement to make it automatic and part of the movement) not something you are thinking about doing for the rest of your golfing life.

We are loading the Left Wrist (No. 2)
Don't like the way you stated this- "WE" or "I" implies that you are thinking about it - making it happen. No. The left wrist is loading because you are swinging- it's part of the movement. But #3 is being loaded also, maybe #4 also- so #2 is not the only thing going on - there is alot of stuff going on.

. . . but the Right Arm stays Passive no?
Passive is a relative term in relation to Active thrusting in regards to hitting. Due to extensor action and if you want A) the proper structure to the powerpackage then you have anything but a passive right arm and B) that #3 pressure point, right forearm and the right upper arm - all support the load. That's not passive - if something is coming at you and you are "directly in line and opposed to that motion" in order to stop it. You can't load it- stop it and be passive. Active and Passive really applies more directly to the pressure points and if they are primarily aiming or thrusting- it's somewhat of a separate issue in regards to the Right Arm and really a separate issue in regards to Hitting also- as say for example the #4 pressure point could be active in both swinging and hitting- also may be active in the start down and then passive after that- lot's of options.

What kind of Right Arm thoughts should the Swinger have?
See 5-0. And my post above. NONE. Unless you are working on something to improve the structure- motion.

Are we just using the Law of the Triangle
No you are not using the Law of the Triangle- It may apply or be happening but you don't use the Law of the Triangle.

....and just pulling our PASSIVE Triangle DOWNPLANE?

As Compda pointed out- If you've got a passive triangle- then head over to the kiddy park - because that won't cut it in the big boys park.

Here again you have to differentiate what's happening and what you are trying to do.

In the what's happening category you could certainly say that you are pulling the Solid triangle structure Down plane- although specifically the only part of the Triangle that's on plane from the top to impact are the Hands the whole way, the right shoulder at the top and through startdown.

However, on the what am I thinking about category or what am I trying to do category- NO- you are not trying to pull the Triangle Downplane. You've got the same triangle in the baseball batter's swing- would you think when you're hitting the baseball that you are trying to pull the triangle to the hit the ball. It's 5-0, the hands and their clubhead lag - that's what you are trying to move and that's where your focus should be.

Now, I'm going to go back just to harassing you!

P.S. I just crossed the CA/AZ border headed your way!

Bagger- I'd really like to see a skeleton head with ice on it- in the emoticon list- IS THAT TOO MUCH TOO ASK FOR!!!!!!