Max Distance Hitting

[MizunoJoe]

My experience is that I can't match my max trigger delay, max lag CF results with the Right Tricep. Is it because Hitting uses a sweep release, and thus can't utilize the full potential of wristcock? I use Hitting in chipping and pitching because of superior distance control.

[efnef]

My experience is that I can't match my max trigger delay, max lag CF results with the Right Tricep. Is it because Hitting uses a sweep release, and thus can't utilize the full potential of wristcock? I use Hitting in chipping and pitching because of superior distance control.

I've always been a swinger, but have been working on hitting with my irons at the range with increasingly better results each time out. The last time out, the click on my ancient Hogan irons sounded like rifle shots, followed by turf flying. Direction was controlled by how I positioned my clubface during setup.

The only problem is that my woods and driver shots have gone to Hades, either swinging or hitting. The work never ends.

[Jazzyshan]

There's a reason why 95+% of tour players use CF instead of the Right Tricep!

Indeed. I've been excited by all this new (to me) hitting information because this technique perfectly describes my own swing tendencies. But this excitement became somewhat abated this week when I was observing the pros on the range at the Buick Invitational here in San Diego. They pretty much all looked like swingers to me. As one who aspires to achieving a similar level of ball striking, am I straying down the wrong path as a hitter?

[MizunoJoe]

Jazzyshan,

Yes, most of them seem to be max lag, snap releasers, which in my opinion, guarantees they are Swinging, and not Hitting. If, when the hands reach the right thigh on the downswing, the shaft is still above horizontal, it's pretty certain they got there via CF. Yoda's Swinging and Hitting motions are geometrically equivalent with only the physics differing, but I believe that is because he is a sweep release Swinger rather than a max lag, snap releaser.

So, I'd say if you're aspiring to tour quality ball striking, you're better off forgetting about Hitting for full shots. But, I have a feeling Yoda may have other thoughts.

[Yoda]

So, I'd say if you're aspiring to tour quality ball striking, you're better off forgetting about Hitting for full shots. But, I have a feeling Yoda may have other thoughts.

You're right about that, MJ. But...

I'm gonna refer this assignment to our resident Board-Certified Hitter's Emergency Room G.O.L.F. Doc, Ted Fort. Ted is as pure a Hitter as you'll ever meet, and he hits his lob wedge 110, his 5-iron 210 and his Driver 280 (carry). That's normal Lag Pressure. If he needs it, he's got more!

We'll copy this post over into the Hitter's Emergency Room and will await Dr. Fort's appearance. He's not On Call tonight, but he works the morninig shift tomorrow. I suspect we'll hear from him then.

[EdZ]

Love the 'sound' of the rifle shot DOWNWARD impact

Very much like a 22


"Drive the ball to China" - B. Doyle

[mb6606]

I beleive More Norman was quoted as saying "I play through the golf course".

[YodasLuke]

Yoda was remembering distances that I'd used in a few shots when we played together. I got a little crazy on a few holes and "NUKED" a couple. I'm purely hitting these days, and I play with VERY FEW people that are capable of hitting it past me. My distances are long for most...
LW 100
SW 115
GW 130
PW 140
9I 150
8I 160
7I 170
6I 185
5I 200
7W 215
5W 235
3W 255
DR 280 carry
These distances are with "normal" lag pressure. (the pressure with which I play-not trying to get crazy) In fact, I'll give you a short story that was really funny to me. When my distances started getting so high, I thought that my clubs must have been sent to me de-lofted. I went to the local equipment store and had them checked. My LW measured 60.5 and my SW measured 56.5. They were opposite of what I thought; they were actually half a degree weak.
...can't blame the extra distance on the clubs...have to blame it on YODA and TGM.

[Trig]

Yoda was remembering distances that I'd used in a few shots when we played together. I got a little crazy on a few holes and "NUKED" a couple. I'm purely hitting these days, and I play with VERY FEW people that are capable of hitting it past me. My distances are long for most...
LW 100
SW 115
GW 130
PW 140
9I 150
8I 160
7I 170
6I 185
5I 200
7W 215
5W 235
3W 255
DR 280 carry
These distances are with "normal" lag pressure. (the pressure with which I play-not trying to get crazy) In fact, I'll give you a short story that was really funny to me. When my distances started getting so high, I thought that my clubs must have been sent to me de-lofted. I went to the local equipment store and had them checked. My LW measured 60.5 and my SW measured 56.5. They were opposite of what I thought; they were actually half a degree weak.
...can't blame the extra distance on the clubs...have to blame it on YODA and TGM.

I met Ted last month when I took my lesson with Yoda. I have some nice footage of him on my own personal DVD now!

The thing that I thought was most amazing was Ted does not take his hands high and does not have a lot of wrist cock at the top - in fact it looked to me like he was taking a 3/4 backstroke. He sets up at exactly impact fix and starts up from there (correct me if I'm wrong Ted).

I said, "Man, you don't take the club back very far at all"

He said, "That's it. That's all there is."

[YodasLuke]

You're exactly right.
I have no right wrist cock, and I do start at impact fix which is perfectly fine for a hitter. My top looks very short to most, but not to Yoda.
P.S. I'm glad to see you here on the Forum...