6-D-2 & 10-19-C Important Relationship
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10-01-2005, 10:07 AM
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6-D-2 & 10-19-C Important Relationship
Discuss how 6-D-2 relates to 10-19-C.
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10-01-2005, 11:22 AM
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Cross References
On a wider level- if there is interest- the site admins might want to create a "Cross References" category, where cross reference issues / relationships could be discussed.
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10-02-2005, 05:32 AM
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Re: 6-D-2 & 10-19-C Important Relationship
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Originally Posted by lagster
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Discuss how 6-D-2 relates to 10-19-C.
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10-19 C is drag loading and is the longitudinal acceleration of the club. It is a lengthwise acceleration that is to say along the length of the shaft.
To understand this, simply lay a shaft on a table and then pull ALONG its length. That is longitudinal acceleration. Thus in a drag load, this happens, but on an inclined plane.
The relationship in 6-D-2 which relates to throwaway and 10-19C is that we do not want to rush this dragging motion (the wrist throw or left hand karate chop to the aiming point).
Per 7-19: Lag pressure is totally inert. The slightest "pushing away" will produce Clubhead Throwaway. When you find yourself swinging fast whether you want to or not, you are contending with Clubhead Throwaway and it could be induced by improper Clubhead Lag Pressure Point action.
The point that is being emphasized here in 6-D-2 is that it only takes surprisingly low sustained acceleration for throwaway to occur. Effort is not required!
This is why we have to sustain the lag and always always maintain a deliberate, positive, heavy feel. (3-F-6). We want effortless power and not powerful effort. Helps to also think of the endless belt effect.
To hit the ball further, simply hit it better...Jack Nicklaus.
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10-02-2005, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike O
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On a wider level- if there is interest- the site admins might want to create a "Cross References" category, where cross reference issues / relationships could be discussed.
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Good idea, Mike. Many important relationships exist in The Golfing Machine, and true mastery comes only as the separate identities are seen as one beautiful, interconnected whole.
For example, the relationship between Extensor Action and its control of the Right Elbow (6-B-1-D) and Rhythm and the proper Closing of the Clubface through the Ball (6-B-3-0).
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10-02-2005, 11:52 AM
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Re: Cross References
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Originally Posted by Mike O
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On a wider level- if there is interest- the site admins might want to create a "Cross References" category, where cross reference issues / relationships could be discussed.
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I like it. Would each thread be limited to relationship pairs or even broader?
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10-02-2005, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Bagger Lance
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Originally Posted by Mike O
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On a wider level- if there is interest- the site admins might want to create a "Cross References" category, where cross reference issues / relationships could be discussed.
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I like it. Would each thread be limited to relationship pairs or even broader?
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We would need to restrict discussions to the specific Relationship. Otherwise, we might just as well use the TGM Basic and Advanced Forums already in place. However, I do not think that we necessarily need to restrict the Relationships to pairs. In the Extensor Action / Rhythm pair I offered as an example, a third relationship to the #3 Power Accumulator (6-B-3-0) is virtually unavoidable. Of course, the Rhythm of the #3 Accumulator is...guess what?... Hinge Action (2-G). And there you go...
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10-02-2005, 08:09 PM
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Re: Cross References
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Originally Posted by Bagger Lance
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Originally Posted by Mike O
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On a wider level- if there is interest- the site admins might want to create a "Cross References" category, where cross reference issues / relationships could be discussed.
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I like it. Would each thread be limited to relationship pairs or even broader?
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I'm sure there are alot of different avenues that you could approach it from. I always thought his cross references were confusing at first- What is exactly the relationship that he is referring to? Sometimes it's something in that section that's rather specific - for example a sentence or two, while other times it may be the whole section, and of course at other times you're still going, what? Huh? Wish I knew what he was thinking! Much like the initial post here, a thread where cross references are discussed as to what they are linking to - specific or broad, and the reason-correlation for the link- was always an interest that I had learning the book, and seemed like a good category of discussion. I envision the posts started as - Why does he have a cross reference to X from section XXXX. Or a post such as: "I'm thinking that the cross reference in X is because of this- any other thoughts?"
Anyway, that was my thought- obviously has to have interest from others and make sense for Lynn and the Admins.
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10-02-2005, 10:25 PM
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Re: 6-D-2 & 10-19-C Important Relationship
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Originally Posted by comdpa
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Originally Posted by lagster
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Discuss how 6-D-2 relates to 10-19-C.
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10-19 C is drag loading and is the longitudinal acceleration of the club. It is a lengthwise acceleration that is to say along the length of the shaft.
To understand this, simply lay a shaft on a table and then pull ALONG its length. That is longitudinal acceleration. Thus in a drag load, this happens, but on an inclined plane.
The relationship in 6-D-2 which relates to throwaway and 10-19C is that we do not want to rush this dragging motion (the wrist throw or left hand karate chop to the aiming point).
Per 7-19: Lag pressure is totally inert. The slightest "pushing away" will produce Clubhead Throwaway. When you find yourself swinging fast whether you want to or not, you are contending with Clubhead Throwaway and it could be induced by improper Clubhead Lag Pressure Point action.
The point that is being emphasized here in 6-D-2 is that it only takes surprisingly low sustained acceleration for throwaway to occur. Effort is not required!
This is why we have to sustain the lag and always always maintain a deliberate, positive, heavy feel. (3-F-6). We want effortless power and not powerful effort. Helps to also think of the endless belt effect.
To hit the ball further, simply hit it better...Jack Nicklaus.
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comdpa,
Good job on your response!!!
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