Will the real Annikan Ballstriker Please Stand Up?

[12 piece bucket]

I'm posting VJ's Mess vs Mac's hear cause my good friend the Bucket asked for it..Now compare ...Who's the real ballstriker???

Player A


OR

Player B

Mmm. STRONG LIKE BULL.

Ballstriker . . . Where would a player setting up on the Hands Only Plane establish the Right Forearm Flying Wedge alignments? Is there a preference? Or would it dependend on Loading and/or Hinging employeed?

In your Library of Strokes is there anyone who's alignments would approach Mac's?

GO! Go! Gadget Fog-Buster!

B

[annikan skywalker]

The Secret is to keep the right wrist level as you lower down to the HandsOnly plane and stand further from the ball so as to increase Waist Bend and in Mac's Case a Deep Knee Bend...The Flying wedge alignment could not be established until the plane of the clubshaft reached the plane of the right forearm without coking the right wrist...in this case...just prior to 1/2 way up...

Warning...

Most players make the huge mistake like I did... is by lowering to the Hands Only plane by Cocking Both Wrists and holding the plane of Both arms Vertical...Both a huge NO-NO!!!

Mac kept telling me my wrists(plural) were too cocked and my arms too vertical...What it looks like and what it is ...two different animals!!!

[djd]

The Secret is to keep the right wrist level as you lower down to the HandsOnly plane and stand further from the ball so as to increase Waist Bend and in Mac's Case a Deep Knee Bend...The Flying wedge alignment could not be established until the plane of the clubshaft reached the plane of the right forearm without coking the right wrist...in this case...just prior to 1/2 way up...

Warning...

Most players make the huge mistake like I did... is by lowering to the Hands Only plane by Cocking Both Wrists and holding the plane of Both arms Vertical...Both a huge NO-NO!!!

Mac kept telling me my wrists(plural) were too cocked and my arms too vertical...What it looks like and what it is ...two different animals!!!

as- is there a biomechanical advantage to increased waist bend (mac looks at least 45 degrees!) and when you do bend that much how do you determine how far to stand from the ball? also, re: vertical arms being a no-no, it appears that mac's arms are brought in a bit (from the vertical) toward his body (as opposed to reaching out toward the ball) and with a bend to his right elbow - is that what it is? thanks ...

[brianmanzella]

Mac is a great ball-striker, and an accomplised teacher of tour level players.

His MORAD is his particular 'deal,' like Hardy's in One-Pane vs. Two Plane, like Ballards 7 common denominators.

All I ever said is this:

Get 100 average players and a national TV audience, & I'll teach him into retirement.

[12 piece bucket]

The Secret is to keep the right wrist level as you lower down to the HandsOnly plane and stand further from the ball so as to increase Waist Bend and in Mac's Case a Deep Knee Bend...The Flying wedge alignment could not be established until the plane of the clubshaft reached the plane of the right forearm without coking the right wrist...in this case...just prior to 1/2 way up...

Warning...

Most players make the huge mistake like I did... is by lowering to the Hands Only plane by Cocking Both Wrists and holding the plane of Both arms Vertical...Both a huge NO-NO!!!

Mac kept telling me my wrists(plural) were too cocked and my arms too vertical...What it looks like and what it is ...two different animals!!!

Yep yep. I can see from the pics that his right wrist is definitely not cocked. So really he hasn't lowered his hands by cocking the wrists. He has lowered his hands via bending his hips and knees . . . No?

However, by Mr. K's definition he hasn't achieved the Right Forearm Flying Wedge at address. But he seems to have established the Right Forearm and Clubshaft in the same plane very well by the third frame huh?

And the cradle will rock . . .

[annikan skywalker]

Bucket...You're all over it like "white on rice"

[djd]

The Secret is to keep the right wrist level as you lower down to the HandsOnly plane and stand further from the ball so as to increase Waist Bend and in Mac's Case a Deep Knee Bend...The Flying wedge alignment could not be established until the plane of the clubshaft reached the plane of the right forearm without coking the right wrist...in this case...just prior to 1/2 way up...

Warning...

Most players make the huge mistake like I did... is by lowering to the Hands Only plane by Cocking Both Wrists and holding the plane of Both arms Vertical...Both a huge NO-NO!!!

Mac kept telling me my wrists(plural) were too cocked and my arms too vertical...What it looks like and what it is ...two different animals!!!

annikan- could you elaborate on the arms too vertical fault - how exactly should the arms be. thanks.

[tongzilla]

What's the advantage of setting hands on the hands only plane and reaching out and bending over more, when your hands will be returning to elbow plane/turned shoulder plane at impact?

[12 piece bucket]

What's the advantage of setting hands on the hands only plane and reaching out and bending over more, when your hands will be returning to elbow plane/turned shoulder plane at impact?

Something about swinging a 2 x 4 around a corner . . .

[annikan skywalker]

Bucket.....

You're figuring this out too quickly

Clue:

Radius of Gyration and Moment of Inertia...is smaller

Don't bother looking it up in the little yellow book....


Here I'll save you the effort:


Radius of Gyration def:
The distance(radius) from an axis of rotation to where the Mass of an object(The club) would have to be concentrated to create the same moment of inertia of the entire object about that axis: meassured in units of length or expressed as meters in SI; a scalar quantity
- Biomechanics of Sport and Exercise 2nd edition, Peter M. McGinnis,p.394

Take a baseball bat and swing it from the handle...now flip it around a swing it from it's barrell...the overall mass of the bat is the same however the concentration or distribution of its mass is different thus affecting it's moment of inertia..which is the difference of what you felt swing the bat from either end...This is major reason why Mac sets-up the way he does ...

Lower hands brings in this distribution of mass along the adjustable radius where as raised hands moves this distribution of mass further out and its moment of inertia....Affecting the Moment Arm....