When Good Goes Bad
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01-26-2005, 10:22 AM
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When Good Goes Bad
Question: Let's assume that a player has achieved a workable understanding of TGM and can proficiently excute the proper alignments. So basically you can compress the ball well.
THEN what kind of bad shots do you hit? EC told me that if you're on plane and your alignments are good, it's hard to hit bad shots. Do you just hit it a little fat or a little skinny? It just seems to me if you can execute the alignments, you shouldn't have to chase your swing around the course all day wondering "what the heck am I doing?"
So I guess ulitmately my question is what do you guys that can really execute e.g. Yoda, EC, Ted and others work on? Just refining the alignments?
Thanks!
R
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01-27-2005, 07:27 AM
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Giant,
If you are SURE that you're on plane, if you are SURE that your wedges are intact, then look at several things:
Monitor extensor action.
Focus on the "DOWNWARD" dimension of the downstroke.
Make sure that all accumulators achieve FULL extension past impact.
Make sure that the RHYTHM matches the intended hinge action.
EC
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01-27-2005, 11:16 AM
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Pretty much...only thing i tend to mess up on is:
1) not focussing enough on a solid setup position (getting lazy)
2) incorrect ball position (again lack of focus)
3) sometimes i'll have a small pivot problem and this will lead me to hit it a little thin at times
other than that....its a simple swing that sizzles away 
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02-04-2005, 04:09 PM
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Hello guys,
Good to be here. I heard many wonderful things concerning Yoda and look forward to learning and sharing.
Important to me and my teaching is Chapter 3, especially practicing vs playing. All too often I fill we mix what MR.Kelley told us not to.
If you are working on your machine then work on it and do not care for the results. If you are working on playing, then use the feel to get the ball going in the correct direction.
Really tough to ask what better TGM'ers work on because they are seperating the practice from the play.
Hope this helps.
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02-04-2005, 04:24 PM
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Welcome to the board VJ.....
Very true, many tend to 'practice' on the course by 'trying' to do something with their swings.
As "Yoda" has said for hundreds of years - Do or Do Not
And on the course, you are always better off 'doing' by 'seeing' first.
I find the best way for me to get into that zone is to visualize, visualize, visualize!
If you can see it, you can feel it, and if you can feel it you can DO it!
For those that don't have solid mental images, it is far too easy to get into 'trying' when out on the course.
It is truly amazing what the body can do if visual images are used. Make it part of every shot.
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02-04-2005, 06:50 PM
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Love At First Site
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Originally Posted by vj
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Hello, guys. Good to be here. I heard many wonderful things concerning Yoda and look forward to learning and sharing.
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A rousing LBG welcome, vj, and thanks for your first post! The site is really hummin', and I firmly believe our Professional Contributors and knowledgeable amateurs offer our membership the finest Golf Instruction on the Web. So, do as you've just done: Dive right in!
You're going to love this place!
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02-05-2005, 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by EC
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Giant,
If you are SURE that you're on plane, if you are SURE that your wedges are intact, then look at several things:
Monitor extensor action.
Focus on the "DOWNWARD" dimension of the downstroke.
Make sure that all accumulators achieve FULL extension past impact.
Make sure that the RHYTHM matches the intended hinge action.
EC
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I just want to remark what a great check list Eddie posted here.
Monitor extensor action. - This has been my number one priority. The stretching of the left arm by the bending the right elbow - to the driving of the right arm through impact with wedges intact is the stuff of champions.
Focus on the "DOWNWARD" dimension of the downstroke. “Down Down Down.” Far too many people forget that the ball lies on the ground. The clubhead and #3pp should be driven Downward with extreme prejudiced.
Make sure that all accumulators achieve FULL extension past impact. Anything else will introduce you to the four snares.
Make sure that the RHYTHM matches the intended hinge action. This is the one that got my attention. Machiners know exactly what is said here but not to the average golf student reading the golf magazines or watching the Golf Channel. Many moan and groan about Homer’s jargon but it is this terminology that binds us collectively as one and simplifies Homer's lessons and procedures. Outside golf tips with its ambiguity terminology is as clear as Tourettes.
So, let your left hand know what the hinge action is and follow Eddies other points and you won't go bad.
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