Compression versus Spin Rate

[mb6606]

A good method to learn how to spin it like a pro is pratic in a bunker. Get the wedge to slide under the ball taking little sand. You should be able to get 15 yd bunker shots to spin/roll backwards on the green.

[Sonic_Doom]

A good method to learn how to spin it like a pro is pratic in a bunker. Get the wedge to slide under the ball taking little sand. You should be able to get 15 yd bunker shots to spin/roll backwards on the green.

Even with range balls?

Sounds like good practice though.

[golf2much]

Even with range balls?

Sounds like good practice though.

Yep, even with range balls. We have abunker at our course, and when hit correctly, the range ball will spin back a little to a lot depending on how well you hit them.
G2M

[dkerby]

If I remember correctly, when Annika was playing with the
men in the PGA, the commentators said that Annika could not
hold the greens as well as the men because she could not
swing as hard as the men to compress the ball and get the
same backspin. Seem like she could have used the soft method
and just rolled the ball up the face of the wedge to get
the results that men had?

[birdie_man]

The reason why the throwaway pitch works I think (not sure if this has been explained) is because you can use a fuller swing (more swingspeed)...for more spin.....

....and the compression loss from the throwaway makes it so the ball lands soft on the green. (higher trajectory...less forward momentum when the ball lands)

more spin + higher loft

I like to think of it almost as taking a shaving off the ball.

[nuke99]

Well, whilst singapore slinger trip here over in indonesia, we went over to a very hard panned driving range.

He showed me how to hit a flip and the ball went straight up and down,10 yards half swings!I never could imagine that you could hit shots like that on a hard pan...Its almost like a very narrow U stroke pattern with a flip release. Never seen it in my life.I dont think i have confidence to do that. I'll stick to learning the chip and pitch first . Nonetheless, its a very very useful stroke to have in the bag.

[Yoda]

Well, whilst singapore slinger trip here over in indonesia, we went over to a very hard panned driving range.

He showed me how to hit a flip and the ball went straight up and down,10 yards half swings!I never could imagine that you could hit shots like that on a hard pan...Its almost like a very narrow U stroke pattern with a flip release. Never seen it in my life.I dont think i have confidence to do that. I'll stick to learning the chip and pitch first . Nonetheless, its a very very useful stroke to have in the bag.

That's our Justin!

Feel free to post links to your very impresssive site!

[nuke99]

Whisper: thats my secret new friend too.

My friends are wondering where I get that extra 20 yards back from 2 months rest (coaxing my herniated disc), Justin's coaching of the impact alignments and understanding 2NO, Looking , demonstrating and performing in his singapore range. Balls are free!! we had a long long discussion about the golf swing, eventually I realised i have to take it slow to master , improving a small step at a time . For the time being, im telling them its my new driver.

Suprisingly, the best improvement i got is "Putting" learning Paw and Putt.... i got one 24 putts last weekend !! because I was a very bad putter.

I don't really enjoy lending him my equipments though because of the crazy ball and plastic turf burnt mark he makes... Have a tuff time scrubbing it off . Those damn 130mph+ swings -.- from a tiny man .... I did manage to peak at 110mph though after the lesson. from 102 mph max

too many things in my incubator now.. a little hatching at a time. chirp chirp chirp


The lesson ended with a female ametuer golfer from India... replacing me and Im from Indonesia... and the father of that Michelle Wie wannabe said ." wow Justin, so you are a international coach eh?" .. I shooked hands and shyed away hopin that he will not ask about my handicap .

I think I also heard from the range owner that the recent singapore amatuer winner also came to Justin for some lesson. How cool is that..!!

Man I'm all happy and high now from TGM. Salute ! I typed too much...

[EdZ]

The reason why the throwaway pitch works I think (not sure if this has been explained) it because you can use a fuller swing (more swingspeed)...for more spin.....

....and the compression loss from the throwaway makes is so the ball lands soft on the green. (higher trajectory...less forward momentum when the ball lands)

more spin + higher loft

I like to think of it almost as taking a shaving off the ball.

A 'throw away' pitch can certainly be useful, but you can generate massive spin and very high trajectory with a full, agressive motion, given a proper setup

A very open stance and a very open clubface (clubface very nearly to target) - the key is a ball position that 'matches' the amount of open you are (stance and clubface combination)

Relative to your stance line, there should be NO throw away and a forward leaning, hands ahead, DOWNward impact with a flat left wrist.

This will produce a ton of backspin, and a fair bit of side spin so plan accordingly. Off hardpan you can get 'silly spin' even with a square setup - get those hands ahead and hit down

[birdie_man]

Ya you got er. That's another way to get a similar shot off, no doubt.