#51 02-22-2006, 01:59 AM Yoda Administrator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 10,681 G.O.L.F. -- Phil Niekro Style Originally Posted by tongzilla Can you explain further why there is less control? Is it purely because there is less backspin? Or are there other factors...? No other factors, Leo. Only the Backspin. As it is eliminated, Ball Behavior approaches an out-of-control 'knuckle ball.' __________________ Yoda Yoda View Public Profile Send a private message to Yoda Visit Yoda's homepage! Find all posts by Yoda