A Question for Yoda, regarding Homer and Shaft Flex

[BlackjackNY]

Yoda,
Was just scrolling thru the archives and came upon your discussion with Homer regarding shaft flex. Do you believe his statements to be true? It seems to me that shaft flex would have something to do with how well you feel PP#3. Or am I completely off base here? Would flex have anything to do with anything at all(gee, could I ask a more generic question at all )?

[YodasLuke]

I'll let the green guy tell you about his conversations with Homer. But, I know that shaft flex for me is critical. If I don't have something very stiff with my normal lag pressure, I over-stress the shaft and it feels terrible. The more flexible it is, the farther right it goes. The only way I can keep it from going to the right is to quit, then it snaps to the left.

One thing that I've never been able to figure out is the Rifle shafts. I've tried every shaft flex they make, and I've never hit one that I liked. I know many that swear by them, but I don't know what's wrong with me not liking them. I can't even waggle with them without getting the heebie-jeebies. It's still very confusing to me.

Also, I'll tell you something that I found to be very funny about fitting. I fit myself with the Henry-Griffitts cart and got the clubs that I liked. One of my best friends works for Mizuno and had a launch monitor. He tested me with my clubs and said the launch angle/spin rate/etc. were all perfect. He thought I had used a launch monitor to test the results, but I told him I just did it with watching the ball flight. He said, "don't change your equipment."

[brianmanzella]

Ted,

Rifles PLAY way stiffer than the 'number'....


....way stiffer.....


Try something WAY weaker, and you'll like 'em fine.

[YodasLuke]

Ted,

Rifles PLAY way stiffer than the 'number'....


....way stiffer.....


Try something WAY weaker, and you'll like 'em fine.

I'm TOTALLY satisfied with my HG's which are somewhere in the X-100 (dynamic range). But, sometimes I have a student with Rifles and I want to demonstrate something. Like I said, I've tried all their flexes. Weak is horrible, stiff is less horrible, it doesn't matter. HG doesn't use Rifles, so it's of no consequence. HG also SST PURE's all of their shafts. I don't think there's another company in the market that goes that extra mile.

[brianmanzella]

I don't like rifles either, so we have that going for us.

Now, as for PURing!!!

A++++


That's why HG is still around and 56,789 competirors are kaput!

[annikan skywalker]

IMO....Rifles suck.....They play very stiff and quite inconsistent....Do you think it's because of a bend point that varies through the set?

Where the hell is Billy when you need him?

[bambam]

IMO....Rifles suck.....They play very stiff and quite inconsistent...

I have rifles and am not a fan of how they feel; thinking about trading in the clubs because of the shafts, actually. That being said, I know others who seem to like them.

[ram1golf]

Has anyone tried Tom Wishon clubs? If you have, what do you think?

[ThinkingPlus]

Has anyone tried Tom Wishon clubs? If you have, what do you think?

I play a full set of Wishon clubs. The only club I don't like all that much is the driver. Tom's drivers are mostly setup for people who need help getting a higher launch angle. I don't really need that. The fairway woods are awesome. I play the 515GRTs in both 3W and 5W. I shafted them with Aldila NVS75 in stiff flex. They are easy to get up off the deck and hit it a long way.

I also play Wishon hybrids for my 3I and 4I replacements. Very iron like club and easy to hit. I have these shafted with Grafalloy Blue Pro Launch hybrid shaft in stiff flex. They are still a little soft, but that makes it easy to hit'em high.

I play the Wishon 550s in my irons with Harrison Premier Lite 85 steel shafts in regular flex. Nice lightweight steel shaft. I play the blades up to 6I and the 5I is the cavity back. These are solid irons. They are very controllable and not hard to hit for blades. Trajectory is medium for me.

Finally I went with a 52* / 58* wedges to go along with my PW. I picked a 56* / 60* of different styles to get the wider sole I was looking for and had Wishon cherry pick / bend to get me the loft I wanted (they are very good about that). Both clubs have smallish bounce (8*), but a wider sole. This is a nice compromise that lets me play'em from the sand as well as the fairway.

All in all Wishon's clubs are very high quality, the service is great, and the price is reasonable. Everything in my bag at the moment is a long term keeper except the driver.

[12 piece bucket]

Wishon has been described as the smartest man in golf. He's got a fantastic book Search for the Perfect Club. Great read and very good information. Don't have any of his sticks but you can bet your petutie that whatever he puts out is good.