Annikan Skywalker - Downstroke Sequence

[Homerson]

Abduction is away from the centerline of your body istead of adduction is toward your centerline!


The Snead LOOK!!!

Ok, so using natural physics, the pivot train, the look is that the right knee goes away from the body(away from the ball?), THEN moves back toward the inside of the left knee(toward the body?)???

In my swing, I like the look of the right kneee moving straight toward the the left(without the push feel you talk about), BUT I do have some COG issues(according to foot pressure monitor technology).

Have I got it wrong?

[annikan skywalker]

Wrong? For Sequential motion...there would not be a push off the right foot and knee..it would be a pull down starting down with the segments of the lower extememities...

[noproblemos]

Edz said: [She]... a bit early on the finish swivel perhaps, or an aiming point that is slightly farther back than it should be. These are very minor in her case.

I have a question about this “Hinging” and/or “finish swivel”:
First I assume:
1. These are both pics of the “follow through” position where both arms are straight.
2. Since you’re probably “Swinging” then you’re intending to use Horizontal Hinging.

OK, here's where I'm confused...
Edz has said that she seems to be “a bit early on the finish swivel.” But isn’t hers the way you are supposed to look, at the "both arms straight position", if you are using Horizontal Hinging? How can you [Annikan] be using Horizontal Hinging if your hands look like yours at followthrough. Wouldn’t that be more like Angled Hinging?

Isn't Horizontal Hinging a "full roll" through impact? her's looks like a full roll. Has she gone rolled too far too early?

[12 piece bucket]

Edz said: [She]... a bit early on the finish swivel perhaps, or an aiming point that is slightly farther back than it should be. These are very minor in her case.

I have a question about this “Hinging” and/or “finish swivel”:
First I assume:
1. These are both pics of the “follow through” position where both arms are straight.
2. Since you’re probably “Swinging” then you’re intending to use Horizontal Hinging.

OK, here's where I'm confused...
Edz has said that she seems to be “a bit early on the finish swivel.” But isn’t hers the way you are supposed to look, at the "both arms straight position", if you are using Horizontal Hinging? How can you [Annikan] be using Horizontal Hinging if your hands look like yours at followthrough. Wouldn’t that be more like Angled Hinging?

Could depend on how Turned the grip is . . . don't have that pic so hard to tell.

Also note how David has maintained his paddlewheel of the right forearm more at follow through. The right forearm is not as "rolled." When Swivel replaces Hinge Action (be it angled or horizontal) alignment is erratic . . . Swivel being an INDEPENDENT motion of the left forearm . . . not the entire left arm wedge. You can see this in the left arms as well.

[noproblemos]

Could depend on how Turned the grip is . . . don't have that pic so hard to tell.

Also note how David has maintained his paddlewheel of the right forearm more at follow through. The right forearm is not as "rolled." When Swivel replaces Hinge Action (be it angled or horizontal) alignment is erratic . . . Swivel being an INDEPENDENT motion of the left forearm . . . not the entire left arm wedge. You can see this in the left arms as well.

But isn't the right arm supposed to be rolled in Horizontal Hinging? Otherwise, how can the clubface have moved horizontally.

BTW, how are Hinging and Swivel different? Are you saying that Swivel means the "INDEPENDENT motion of the left forearm...not the entire left arm wedge"?

[strav]

[quote=Yoda]

In his Hitting Stroke, Annikan uses a Double Shift Plane Angle Variation (10-7-C) -- a Shift from the Elbow Plane to the Turned Shoulder Plane and back again. From the Top, he uses its compatible Delivery Path, Top Arc and Angled Line (10-23-D) wherein his Hands drop vertically from the Turned Shoulder Plane to the Elbow Plane before beginning their Straight Line Drive toward the Ball. Check out the yellow dots defining the Delivery Path. Note the three vertical dots opposite the Right Shoulder and torso, and compare them against the backdrop of the frame of the mirror in the background and assure yourself that they do indeed lie in a straight line. This is the 'vertical drop' from the Turned Shoulder Plane to the Elbow Plane and aligns the Hands for their Straight Line Thrust toward the inside-aft quadrant of the Ball.

All this is 'proof positive' that the four Straight Line Delivery Paths are possible (courtesy of Downstroke Axis Tilt via Hip Slide). There are those who say that the Hands can move only in a Circle (Circle Path Delivery), a contention that would make the Straight Line Delivery Paths an impossibility and hence the catalogued Variations bogus.
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If the Hands are a portion of the Lever Assembly and they do not move in a circle as your 'proof positive' demonstrates, haven't you negated 1-L-8 and 1-L-9?

1-L-8. No portion of the Lever Assembly can swing forward independently.
1-L-9. Regardless of how the Lever Assembly is driven, it moves in a circle.

[tongzilla]

If the Hands are a portion of the Lever Assembly and they do not move in a circle as your 'proof positive' demonstrates, haven't you negated 1-L-8 and 1-L-9?

1-L-8. No portion of the Lever Assembly can swing forward independently.
1-L-9. Regardless of how the Lever Assembly is driven, it moves in a circle.

The Hands move in a straight line for only a brief period, whilst the Lever Assembly (the whole of Left Arm and Club) moves in a circle around the left shoulder socket.

How can the Hands move in a straight line but the Lever Assembly move in a circle simulatenously? The answer is the Axis Tilt during Start Down performed with a Stationary Head and Hip Slide towards your selected Delivery Line.

[strav]

The Hands move in a straight line for only a brief period, whilst the Lever Assembly (the whole of Left Arm and Club) moves in a circle around the left shoulder socket.

How can the Hands move in a straight line but the Lever Assembly move in a circle simulatenously? The answer is the Axis Tilt during Start Down performed with a Stationary Head and Hip Slide towards your selected Delivery Line.

As per 1-L-21, how would you demonstrate your contention geometrically?

[12 piece bucket]

But isn't the right arm supposed to be rolled in Horizontal Hinging? Otherwise, how can the clubface have moved horizontally.

BTW, how are Hinging and Swivel different? Are you saying that Swivel means the "INDEPENDENT motion of the left forearm...not the entire left arm wedge"?

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2-G HINGE MOTION The Hands can be educated to reproduce them by holding at least one Hand vertical or parallel to the corresponding Basic Plane. These motions also duplicate the motions of paddles of a paddlewheel rotating around its axis vertical to one of the three Basic Planes. And an equivalent could be “Clubface Paddlewheel Action” executed as a Left Wrist Paddlewheel Motion. Thus, though some procedures may cause the Clubface to “Close” in relation to the Plane Line, none will be an actual “Roll” of the Hands. See 2-C and 6-B-3-0. There is, however, the “Release Roll” (Swivel) which is a true rotation of the Hands into Impact alignments by Accumulator #3 with (10-18-A only). After the selected Hinge Action has been executed, the Swivel is again useful for Snap Rolling the hands into their On Plane Condition for the Finish (8-12). That is the Geometry of Hinging.


4-C-3 ROLLED The Wrist is ROLLED when it is rotated to the left. This moves the Wrist backe to the VERTICAL condition from the TURNED condition. The Wrist should never normally ROLL beyond the VERTICAL condition during the Release. But the Roll may be varied to suit the purpose at hand. It may begin early or late, behind or ahead of normal position, or even be left in the Turned position until after Impact. See 4-D-0.

HERE'S A FANTASTIC EXPLANATION BY COLLARDS ON THE INTRACACIES OF HINGE ACTION AND SWIVEL I have this tatoo'd on my forehead.

For example...

Stand erect with your arms hanging normally at your sides. The dial of your wristwatch faces west. Leaving your arms at your sides, turn your body to the right. Note that the dial now faces north. Did you turn your hand? No. Is it in a turned condition? Yes. Why? Because that what happens when the arms and hands maintain their natural relationship to the turning body.

Now extend your left arm in front of your shoulder and parallel to the ground. Point your left forefinger straight ahead in a mock 'shooting a pistol' configuration. Now swing your arm horizontally to the right as if you were going to 'shoot' a target opposite your right shoulder. Lower your hand to waist high. Is it in a turned condition? Yes. Did you turn it? No. This is the natural action produced by the swinging arm.

In both cases, the 'turn' was gradual and not completed until the movement itself was completed. Per 2-G, neither was an actual 'turn' of the hand, nor would its reverse motion be a true 'roll.' The left arm and hand has simply swung like a gate from its hinges and remained vertical (perpendicular) to the ground. The identical motion on an inclined plane appears to turn and roll. In reality, it is merely the Hinge Action, that is, the left wrist staying perpendicular to the horizontal plane. In other words, the wrist turns...but it is not turned (independently of the turning body or swinging arms).

However, the Swivel Action is a true rotation independent of the natural motion of the body and arms. For example, in the above drill, instead of your left wrist remaining vertical (perpendicular) to the ground as it swings first to the right and then back to the left, it would immediately twist palm down to the ground. That is an independent swivel. The same is true on the return move wherein the hand remains palm down until the arm passes the line-of-sight and twists back to its beginning 'perpendicular to the ground' alignment.

It may help to think of an actual hinge: the blade simply moves in a circle around the pin and remains perpendicular to its plane of motion. The movement is a structured, mechanical rotation of the blade about its hinge pin axis. At no time, however, does the blade itself actually twist. Now, with a pair of pliers, you could physically take hold of the blade and twist it, but in so doing, you would bend it -- the blade would no longer be perpendicular to its plane of motion -- and perhaps even tear it from its pin. In either event, the hinge action will have been destroyed.

This is what happens when you twist your left wrist -- to the right or to the left. You have a Swivel Action. In G.O.L.F., it is the Swingers Standard Left Wrist Action (10-18-A) -- Start Up and Release Swivels -- to effect On Plane Clubhead Control on the Backstroke and to increase the Lag of the #3 Accumulator into Impact. The Finish Swivel is used by both Swingers and Hitters to complete the Stroke after the Follow-Through (Both Arms Straight position). At no time does either Swinger or Hitter use Swivel Action to control the Clubface Alignment during Impact.

That is the realm of the Hinge Action.

To take Doc Collards example a step further . . . Get your little gun finger pointing straight ahead. Now rotate your left palm up to face the SKY. Then drop it down on the Inclined Plane. There you can see what INDEPENDENT ROTATION OF THE LEFT FOREARM does for you and why as a result things be come erratic. You have OVER-ROLLED. Hinge Motion is consistent. Independent rotation of the LEFT FOREARM is fleeting. REMEMBER it is a LEFT ARM FLYING WEDGE not a LEFT FOREARM FLYING WEDGE. The whole Wedge executes the Hinge Motion and the left forearm executes the Swivel back up the Inclined Plane.

[annikan skywalker]

A Hall of Fame post combined with a Hall of Famer ....Bravo...well done and well explained....There is a difference between Turned and Turning....The entire Arm vs. the lower arm....Nice!!!