Need some help with the driver - I don't want to do it but need a quick fix
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03-28-2006, 01:11 AM
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Need some help with the driver - I don't want to do it but need a quick fix
Hi all,
I'm gradually starting to resolve a problem with a slight over the top move on the downstroke. My irons are going ok but the woods are killing me - mostly very low and left - a result of getting stuck and coming OTT.
I know what i need to work on to resolve this and i'm slowly getting there with the help of flashlight and dowel drills.
But.. I have a few work ambrose day's coming up on Thursday and Monday and i'd like to be able to get off the tee. Are there any short term fixes i could try just to get me past these next couple of rounds? just need something to patch me up while i take time to work on the other stuff.. i know people will say fix the pivot but it ain't going to happen in the next 5 days!!
Thanks!
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03-28-2006, 03:13 AM
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Originally Posted by bergsey
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Hi all,
I'm gradually starting to resolve a problem with a slight over the top move on the downstroke. My irons are going ok but the woods are killing me - mostly very low and left - a result of getting stuck and coming OTT.
I know what i need to work on to resolve this and i'm slowly getting there with the help of flashlight and dowel drills.
But.. I have a few work ambrose day's coming up on Thursday and Monday and i'd like to be able to get off the tee. Are there any short term fixes i could try just to get me past these next couple of rounds? just need something to patch me up while i take time to work on the other stuff.. i know people will say fix the pivot but it ain't going to happen in the next 5 days!!
Thanks!
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Yodaluke had a great little thought in a recent post...picture that you are drawing the number 7 on a wall to your right with your right shoulder as you make your pivot back and shoulder turn down the plane line to the inside back of the ball. This was a great key for me on my last round on all my swings especially with my Driver. I also combined that pivot thought with a right forearm pickup on the backswing which I think gave the club its upward component while the pivot turn brought it in, placing the hands in a good position to drive down and out to the ball in line with the downward (and outward) right shoulder turn. I also at address placed the ball a little more toward the toe of the Driver face since I am aiming to strike the ball more on the inside back. I think the number 7 swing thought made alot of other things happen correctly-fuller pivot turn on the backswing with a steady head, and a steeper right shoulder turn on the downswing preventing the OTT move. The hips may know to slide a little before turning to tilt the spine to allow the right shoulder to move more downward. I'm only a novice here so others more knowledgeable may be more helpful.
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03-28-2006, 03:36 AM
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Originally Posted by bergsey
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Hi all,
I'm gradually starting to resolve a problem with a slight over the top move on the downstroke. My irons are going ok but the woods are killing me - mostly very low and left - a result of getting stuck and coming OTT.
I know what i need to work on to resolve this and i'm slowly getting there with the help of flashlight and dowel drills.
But.. I have a few work ambrose day's coming up on Thursday and Monday and i'd like to be able to get off the tee. Are there any short term fixes i could try just to get me past these next couple of rounds? just need something to patch me up while i take time to work on the other stuff.. i know people will say fix the pivot but it ain't going to happen in the next 5 days!!
Thanks!
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Often an OTT move is due to the fact most people don't know 'where' to strike the ball.
Because you hit the ball prior to low point, the ball must be struck down and OUT... Try having more 'out' to the stroke which might only be slight with the driver due to the balls positioning being pretty close to low point.
Most people when they try to hit the ball, they try and hit directly at the back of the ball, which seems logical until you think about the geometry of the circle a bit, when they should be thinking about hitting the inside quadrant. If you can mentally draw a line from impact point to low point, you have your angle of approach... try and strike the ball in this direction....
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03-28-2006, 05:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Mathew
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Often an OTT move is due to the fact most people don't know 'where' to strike the ball.
Because you hit the ball prior to low point, the ball must be struck down and OUT... Try having more 'out' to the stroke which might only be slight with the driver due to the balls positioning being pretty close to low point.
Most people when they try to hit the ball, they try and hit directly at the back of the ball, which seems logical until you think about the geometry of the circle a bit, when they should be thinking about hitting the inside quadrant. If you can mentally draw a line from impact point to low point, you have your angle of approach... try and strike the ball in this direction....
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Yep with you on all that, i can do it ok on the irons but a bit of a subconcious block at the moment with the woods - ok on the range but yet to transfer it to the course. It will come with time and more practice. Just trying to work out if it's just not happening on the course on the day how to 'band aid' to get you through the round.
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03-28-2006, 07:31 AM
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Alignment
Whenever my ball starts going left, I check my alignment and I'm always aimed too far right. If I aim a little left and hit it out to the right, it all goes straight.
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03-28-2006, 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by bergsey
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Hi all,
I'm gradually starting to resolve a problem with a slight over the top move on the downstroke. My irons are going ok but the woods are killing me - mostly very low and left - a result of getting stuck and coming OTT.
I know what i need to work on to resolve this and i'm slowly getting there with the help of flashlight and dowel drills.
But.. I have a few work ambrose day's coming up on Thursday and Monday and i'd like to be able to get off the tee. Are there any short term fixes i could try just to get me past these next couple of rounds? just need something to patch me up while i take time to work on the other stuff.. i know people will say fix the pivot but it ain't going to happen in the next 5 days!!
Thanks!
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Get your Right Forearm On-Plane at Fix. Imagine a line on the ground running parallel to your right forearm. That is your clubhead delivery line that will lead you to an inside out impact. Deliver the clubhead to the ball along that line.
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03-28-2006, 08:35 AM
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03-28-2006, 08:56 AM
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shortcut city to a band-aid: all that matters when im out of whack (wich is often),
PP3 GOES down TOO INSIDE AFT OF BALL, no more no less,everything else doesnt matter to me if that feel is gone. alittle simple but when the noodle gets clogged, simple works for me.
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03-31-2006, 02:13 AM
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Thanks for the Tip
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Originally Posted by powerdraw
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shortcut city to a band-aid: all that matters when im out of whack (wich is often),
PP3 GOES down TOO INSIDE AFT OF BALL, no more no less,everything else doesnt matter to me if that feel is gone. alittle simple but when the noodle gets clogged, simple works for me.
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Thanks for the tip, i used the exact thought yesterday at the corporate day i mentioned. Managed to pull off the longest drive of the day and won myself a new TM r7 Quad!
Cheers!
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03-31-2006, 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by bergsey
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Thanks for the tip, i used the exact thought yesterday at the corporate day i mentioned. Managed to pull off the longest drive of the day and won myself a new TM r7 Quad!
Cheers!
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 hahahaha GREAT!!!! dont thank me, thank Homa...
so do i get your old driver? 
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