Leakage Hooks???

[tball88]

ok guys, after about a year and a half, I have found the sizzle again. I believe in an effort to hit, and I am a hitter. I was getting way too much tension in my arms and particular my wrist. I'm really letting the hands set nicely, relaxing, and letting the club drop onto the ball like a wrecking ball. I finally have a feel for where the club head is. Only one problem I'm having, there are times where I believe either my body stops turning or the hands slow down, club face catches up and I snap them left. Seems to only be an issue with the longer clubs.

Anybody have some good drills or ideas around making sure the leakage hook doesn't sneak in now and then.

Yoda/Tedd, I may need another trip to the swamp.

Thanks

[psheehan]

Tball,
I'm not an expert at this; I'm a new hitter myself (13 months)
However I will share my experience and maybe you can identify something that will help. I have problems with hooks when one of the following occurs:

1. not stopping at top... bends the plane line and for me shuts the face.

2. poor extensor action... this causes a bunch of impact problems but hooking is high on the potential problems list

3. right shoulder moving out instead of down plane...and usually this is associated with #1 above.

[EdZ]

A hitter should feel a 'slow start down' - a very 'heavy' swinging motion to the club. Chances are good that when you hit those big hooks, you are out of the Rhythm of the swinging force, your transition is too fast. You need to smooth it out. Humming a tune/walz etc can be very helpful, as can some eyes closed swings with a heavy club/two clubs.

[jim_0068]

IMO experience in both play and teaching hitters who get that leakage draw don't get to both arms straight.

Make sure you keep thrusting pp#1 until it simply gets you to the finish.

[YodasLuke]

ok guys, after about a year and a half, I have found the sizzle again. I believe in an effort to hit, and I am a hitter. I was getting way too much tension in my arms and particular my wrist. I'm really letting the hands set nicely, relaxing, and letting the club drop onto the ball like a wrecking ball. I finally have a feel for where the club head is. Only one problem I'm having, there are times where I believe either my body stops turning or the hands slow down, club face catches up and I snap them left. Seems to only be an issue with the longer clubs.

Anybody have some good drills or ideas around making sure the leakage hook doesn't sneak in now and then.

Yoda/Tedd, I may need another trip to the swamp.

Thanks

T,
Something that's important for everyone, swinging and hitting, is to keep from Quitting (3-F-7-B). You have to sustain the lag (PRESSURE).

If you're hitting and starting from an adjusted address, remember that your hands have a different location they're seeking at impact. The hands have to keep moving. So there are address hands and impact hands. You learn this feel through impact fix. Now, there is always the option of impact address (my personal favorite) for the hitter. Your address hands become your impact hands. It "eliminates the "middleman" Address".

I'll give you three suggestions: impact bag, impact bag, impact bag. Beat the cover off of it.

[Thom]

ok guys, after about a year and a half, I have found the sizzle again. I believe in an effort to hit, and I am a hitter. I was getting way too much tension in my arms and particular my wrist. I'm really letting the hands set nicely, relaxing, and letting the club drop onto the ball like a wrecking ball. I finally have a feel for where the club head is. Only one problem I'm having, there are times where I believe either my body stops turning or the hands slow down, club face catches up and I snap them left. Seems to only be an issue with the longer clubs.

Anybody have some good drills or ideas around making sure the leakage hook doesn't sneak in now and then.

Yoda/Tedd, I may need another trip to the swamp.

Thanks

Keep your mind in the hands, or hit with the grip....
is thoughts that keep me from throwing the head at the ball.

[Matt]

These creep into my game every so often and most of the time it's due to lag loading. I sometimes don't 'throw' the club into PP3 hard enough at the top and the clubhead throws out just a bit too early before impact - thus a leakage draw/hook.

Make sure that when you get to the top you get a good load on the shaft, hitting or swinging. It makes a big difference. When I get it loaded hard at the top I feel I not only have more power to dump but also that I can swing as hard as I want and the ball won't go left.

[tball88]

Thank you all for the replies. All great suggestions. I'll be at the range today and tomorrow trying to get it worked out.

Matt, I had never thought of the fully loading at the top. I'm wondering if that becomes an issue with the longer clubs(driver) due to the weight (or lack thereof) of the club. I don't have this problem with the irons, but with the driver, I have a much more difficult time really feeling the club load.

Once again, thanks for all the feedback. I love this board, you got a lot of good intellectual capital for problem solving

[12 piece bucket]

These creep into my game every so often and most of the time it's due to lag loading. I sometimes don't 'throw' the club into PP3 hard enough at the top and the clubhead throws out just a bit too early before impact - thus a leakage draw/hook.

Make sure that when you get to the top you get a good load on the shaft, hitting or swinging. It makes a big difference. When I get it loaded hard at the top I feel I not only have more power to dump but also that I can swing as hard as I want and the ball won't go left.

There's a lot to be learned in this short post . . . Matt . . . got any drills/suggestions on how to "get a good load on the shaft?" I would make a crude joke but this is such an important post . . . I shall let it be.

Great Post!

[Matt]

There's a lot to be learned in this short post . . . Matt . . . got any drills/suggestions on how to "get a good load on the shaft?" I would make a crude joke but this is such an important post . . . I shall let it be.

Great Post!

Thanks...here's what I think about (for Swinging):

First, I have mid-body hands at address. Then I feel a right forearm pickup with lagging clubhead takeaway (this is KEY!) Why is it key? Because the lagging clubhead takeaway gives you some momentum that facilicates lag loading. My hands get to the top first and then the clubhead. As my hands slow down at the top, the clubhead gets "thrown" into PP3. I catch this load on my right forefinger and start downplane again with my right shoulder. From there, my right shoulder moves back and downplane and drags the loaded clubhead with it.

Only recently have I found a set of swing keys that have yet to fail me. I can take 2 months off during the winter and get back into the swing of things in very, very little time. I have pivot thoughts and lag thoughts and the rest just happens. I always struggled with having my stroke feel different day-to-day but that is not the case anymore. It took a while, yes, but when you discover for yourself via trial and error what feels best for YOU...the complexity disappears and you're left wondering, "Can it really be this easy?"