#4 Pressure Point

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Old 05-07-2006, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Daryl
After trying it I came to the following conclusion. Tilting gives a downward force to the #4pp.
Yes Daryl,now does the "back and down" right shoulder make sense?(in another post).
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Old 05-07-2006, 07:23 PM
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(Bows), IMHO it's the only way that makes sense anymore.
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Old 05-07-2006, 07:31 PM
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Mathew,

Thanks for your insights, but i'm a little confused. In previous posts i have seen people mention the 'bumping' of the hips tilts the axis. Does this mean that it is not the actual 'bumping' of the hips that should be concentrated on, rather the correct application of extensor action down plane. Which will then have the effect of sliding the hips and tilting the axis?

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Old 05-07-2006, 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by danny_shank
Mathew,

Thanks for your insights, but i'm a little confused. In previous posts i have seen people mention the 'bumping' of the hips tilts the axis. Does this mean that it is not the actual 'bumping' of the hips that should be concentrated on, rather the correct application of extensor action down plane. Which will then have the effect of sliding the hips and tilting the axis?

Cheers,

Danny
The hip motion is indeed what tilts the spine and its the pressure points which you should concentrate on. Extensor action is a non accelerating thrust which is always always on plane. As pp4 pressure then has to adhere to pp3 staying on the plane, it forces you to send that right shoulder downplane and tilt the spine and do the correct degree of hip slide.
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Old 05-07-2006, 08:59 PM
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What's this talk about the stretch of extensor action being below plane?
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Old 05-07-2006, 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by tongzilla
What's this talk about the stretch of extensor action being below plane?
The left arm is above plane and pp3 is always stretched on plane towards the plane line so the stretch pp3 has on the left arm is always below plane.
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Old 05-08-2006, 08:54 AM
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Yoda And You-Know-Who Load #4
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Good posts here!

Some additional information on this can be found in the recent thread about CONNECTION.
Here's a comparative stop-action that shows Ben and me with a fully-loaded Pressure Point #4 (where the Left Arm contacts the chest). No falling 'headcover under the Arm' here!

I never sought to copy Ben. I just sought to swing according to the Principles and Procedures of The Golfing Machine, and this is what I got.

Hogan dug it out of the dirt.

I dug it out of the little Yellow Book.



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Old 05-08-2006, 09:13 AM
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The Hitter's Four Barrel Stroke
Originally Posted by lagster

As far as #4... what about 3 Barrel Hitting? No #4, or just very pasive?
Hitting or Swinging, any use of the Right Shoulder (the Pivot) during the Start Down to 'Load the Lag' (overcome the initial inertia of the Lagging Clubhead) constitutes the use of the #4 Accumulator. Otherwise, its Motion is only that -- Motion (a 'permitting' function) -- and not Action (actively causing something to happen).

So, when the Hitter uses his Right Shoulder to Load the Lag during the Start Down, he is using Power Accumulator #4. And assuming he is also using his Right Elbow (Bend and Drive), Left Wrist (Cock and Uncock) and Left Hand (Turn and Roll), he is using a Four Barrel Stroke.

It is doubtful the Hitter would use #4 in a Short Shot. More likely, he would use Drive Loading (10-19-A) to Load the Right Elbow and then use the Right Shoulder simply as a Launching Pad from which to Drive the Lag into Impact. Assuming the Left Wrist and Hand were also actively employed, then this would constitute the Three Barrel Hitting Stroke.
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Old 05-08-2006, 02:18 PM
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It was always my understanding that the #4 accumulator was loaded by moving the right shoulder in a way which has the left arm brace against the chest. I was always told (not by Yoda or anyone on this site), and it is not specifically stated in the book, that the turn the shoulders take on the back swing is the SAME PATH that the shoulders should take on the downswing. I found out Saturday that this is wrong. What I felt was the right shoulder going down. The left arm goes down instantly too. No independent pulling with the left arm. No pulling at all. It may feel like down to me, so I'll say it's DOWN when I explain it to you, but it's actually on plane moving down, out and forward. When in the past I had pushed the right shoulder out (to push on the left arm) I was over the top all of the time, unless I got lucky. It never worked very well, so, for many years I have been pulling the left arm down using left arm and shoulder muscle. What a waste. I wonder how many others have the same problem. Words must be chosen very carefully. You might say that the pressure point is against the chest, but to me it isn't. The left arm touches the chest and stays in that place and comes off that place during release, and you may feel some pressure there, but that's not the force that acts on the arm to carry it down plane to the release point. I haven't exactly figured it out yet but soon I'll be able to name the muscle, tendon or ligaments involved. Anyway, The #4 pressure point now really feels like the "Master Accumulator".

Can I get feedback on this. Thanks

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Old 05-08-2006, 09:51 PM
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Daryl,sounds like your'e going to be "slightly dangerous"when you utilise your +6 putting handicap!
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