Swinging the wrist.. - is that correct?
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06-11-2006, 08:03 PM
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Swinging the wrist.. - is that correct?
Hi everyone, its my first post and I had downloaded some videos here and I find it absolutely revolutionary to my swing. I basically shape my golf around the so called one plane swing ala Stuart Appleby. And to be frank still struggling but improving at a good rate. You can rate me a begginer since i had rested 5 years and started come back March 05 just played seriously again since Jan 06(joined a club). and my hdcp is lurking around 18-25.
What i want to ask is about the #3 pressure point. I tried to play with that but still, I still occasionally cast and I noticed that its because I am still trying to control the clubhead !.... And i basically keep going at it until i realised and rememebered to swing your hands instead of clubhead... However, Im feeling a more pressure due to bending on my leading and trailing wrist ( my leading wrist a bit cupped but flat )and vuala ... It feels like the clubhead clips and snaps through the impact area. Angle of approach is right elbow plane. right elbow behind hips .
Now am I in the right direction?
Thank you in advance.
Anthony
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06-12-2006, 12:13 AM
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Yes- time will tell
I'd probably say YES! Not sure if I followed your post- but sensing the lag in the "hands" versus isolating in the #3 pressure point ONLY sounds like what your describing and if so - I'd say your on the right track. Certainly, monitoring the hands and not the clubhead directly is DEFINITELY moving in the right direction.
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06-13-2006, 08:18 AM
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Thank you for the answer mike. To be frank , i'm not sure I am really doing it correctly. Tried to take a video but for some funny reason, the recording turns out quite bad no image at all.. And I am a natorious flipper and still find meddling with the changes to achieve more consistent results
My current swing.
http://www.zippyvideos.com/8687098635371736/june_2006/
I have a very steep backswing/through swing in this picture, Not enough tilt, and using the arm plane ...
The changes I tryin to achieve this months.
1. Head stays behind,
2. More tilt , right shoulder above right hips.
3. Stay with the elbow plane as long as possible.
4. Stable hips , balance, ( very hard for me)
5. Stop flipping and have alot more clubhead control. instead of a freewheel Flip ...
6. Slightly more bendover.
7. A more Core generated swing which is 50% more quiet.
8. More lag.
Had found the Ben Doyle videos 1 2 3 , Yoda Flying Wedge 4ls hinges delivery path etc and the most important piece , finish swivel(this is amazing).
I am slowly digesting the content of the forum.. Just very curious.. what is 12 - c - x whatever means? ... in these forums?
Any suggestion to improve is greatly appreciated. like what to read etc.. In a entry point to tgm.
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06-14-2006, 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by nuke99
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Just very curious.. what is 12 - c - x whatever means? ... in these forums?
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They are chapter references to the book, The Golfing Machine by Homer Kelly. Saves time typing the complete text.
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06-14-2006, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by nuke99
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Hi everyone, its my first post and I had downloaded some videos here and I find it absolutely revolutionary to my swing.
...I still occasionally cast...
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Welcome aboard, nuke, and thanks for these first posts. You've got questions, and we've got answers. Everybody here wants to help. Stay with us, and you'll learn a ton.
To avoid Casting (Throwaway), pull the butt-end of the Club directly toward the Plane Line (the baseline of your Inclined Plane...usually the Target Line). 
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06-14-2006, 10:41 PM
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Thank you for the nice reply .. I feel so welcomed already
Mr. Yoda, I noticed you say Pull .. Not push (oooops) -.- been practicing the wrong things. 
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06-14-2006, 10:55 PM
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Drag Load For Swingers
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Originally Posted by nuke99
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Thank you for the nice reply .. I feel so welcomed already
Mr. Yoda, I noticed you say Pull .. Not push (oooops) -.- been practicing the wrong things.
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Nuke,
The Stroke you posted is a Swing, not a Hit. And the Swinger Drag Loads -- drags (pulls) the Swinging Club Down Plane -- directly toward the Plane Line. The Body pulls the Arms and the Arms pull the Hands and Club.
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06-15-2006, 04:57 AM
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Originally Posted by nuke99
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Mr. Yoda, I noticed you say Pull .. Not push (oooops) -.- been practicing the wrong things.
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From a procedural point of view, you may find yourself hitting some disastrous shots by trying to Pull. Instead, it may be more helpful to try to spin your right shoulder down plane. The 'down' element (of the down/out/forwards movement of the right shoulder on the downstroke) is especially important for you because you need to tilt your axis more.
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06-15-2006, 10:06 AM
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Pulling With the Pivot
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Originally Posted by tongzilla
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From a procedural point of view, you may find yourself hitting some disastrous shots by trying to Pull. Instead, it may be more helpful to try to spin your right shoulder down plane. The 'down' element (of the down/out/forwards movement of the right shoulder on the downstroke) is especially important for you because you need to tilt your axis more.
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There is no question that the Pivot plays a vital role in the Lag Loading during the Start Down. Indeed, the Pivot accomplishes that Loading with no independent motion of the Arms and Hands (6-K-0). It is this sequencing that induces the Pull sensation of Drag Loading. Per 10-19-C (capitalization by Homer Kelley):
"Drag Loading is...an out-and-out PULL, striving to accelerate the Clubshaft lengthwise..."
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06-19-2006, 04:17 AM
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I felt it !
I had been swinging the club at 1/2 speed and never In my life ball roll so much in the driver, since I was mostly flipping, there is too much spin on the ball. Ball striking and directions improved tremendously. However, Im still completely missing balls here and there to accustom to this completely new feeling and Mis-Sequencing)
As you said Mr. Yoda " Your game will, IMMEDIATELY, IMMEDIATELY! Go to the next level " in the swivel video. Definitely your not lying, now who can promise immediate and deliver?
Thank you... I'll hang around for good.
Thanks Tongzilla... the shoulder image definitely helps me to get that feeling .
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