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Old 10-01-2006, 07:58 PM
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90 degree wristcock
Is it possible to cock the left wrist so that the shaft is 90 degrees to the left arm while maintaining a level right wrist? I can't see how, but if anyone can, please enlighten me. I'm lost on this one.
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Old 10-01-2006, 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Bigwill
Is it possible to cock the left wrist so that the shaft is 90 degrees to the left arm while maintaining a level right wrist? I can't see how, but if anyone can, please enlighten me. I'm lost on this one.
Some people just don't have the flexibility due to bone placement. I can't remember the bone in question, but if it is in the way, you will not be capable of doing the above. Carl Rabito talked about this on the golf channel. I for one cannot even come close.
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The reason you can't sustain the lag is because you are so eager to make the club move fast (a reaction to the intent of "hitting it far"). So on a full shot you throw it away too early, which doesn't happen for your short chip. (bts)
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Old 10-01-2006, 08:32 PM
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Some people just don't have the flexibility due to bone placement. I can't remember the bone in question, but if it is in the way, you will not be capable of doing the above. Carl Rabito talked about this on the golf channel. I for one cannot even come close.
I'm not sure I follow. How does wrist flexibility affect the ability to cock the left wrist to 90 degrees, without cocking the right wrist as well?? Told you, this one has me flummoxed
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Old 10-01-2006, 09:11 PM
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You have to have a certain range of motion to articulate a joint in a direction a certain amount. If something inhibits your ability to get the range of motion that you desire, 90 degrees in this example, then you will have to compensate in some fashion, for me I need to double-cock.
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The reason you can't sustain the lag is because you are so eager to make the club move fast (a reaction to the intent of "hitting it far"). So on a full shot you throw it away too early, which doesn't happen for your short chip. (bts)
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Old 10-01-2006, 09:26 PM
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You have to have a certain range of motion to articulate a joint in a direction a certain amount. If something inhibits your ability to get the range of motion that you desire, 90 degrees in this example, then you will have to compensate in some fashion, for me I need to double-cock.

Ok, so you're saying that if I have the proper range of motion in my wrists, a 90 cocking of the left wrist won't result in the cocking of the right wrist?
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Old 10-01-2006, 09:55 PM
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I definitely can go past 90....esp. with a real swing with the change of directions at the top....where the clubhead is really laggin.

My left thumb hurts sometimes because of the club pushing on it. (when Loading)

Can't do nearly as much with a "short thumb" or the thumb Aft at Fix BTW.

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I definitely can go past 90....esp. with a real swing with the change of directions at the top....where the clubhead is really laggin.

My left thumb hurts sometimes because of the club pushing on it. (when Loading)
Awwww come on!!!! Tell the truth . . . that ain't why your thumb hurts!!!
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Old 10-01-2006, 10:02 PM
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Ok, so you're saying that if I have the proper range of motion in my wrists, a 90 cocking of the left wrist won't result in the cocking of the right wrist?
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Sometimes this can be a kind of ILLUSION. For example, with a guy like Sergio Garcia, that really shollows out his downswing and even may get below the Elbow Plane on the downswing shift... there will look like there is a very sharp angle of the left wrist. With a player like Tom Watson, or Adam Scott, where they are on a more Upright Plane, with little Plane Shift on the downswing... this angle will not appear as great. Try this in a mirror and see if you can see this. Keep the left wrist angle the same, but change planes, and see the different looks. This might have more of an effect with video.
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Old 10-01-2006, 10:06 PM
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Sometimes this can be a kind of ILLUSION. For example, with a guy like Sergio Garcia, that really shollows out his downswing and even may get below the Elbow Plane on the downswing shift... there will look like there is a very sharp angle of the left wrist. With a player like Tom Watson, or Adam Scott, where they are on a more Upright Plane, with little Plane Shift on the downswing... this angle will not appear as great. Try this in a mirror and see if you can see this. Keep the left wrist angle the same, but change planes, and see the different looks. This might have more of an effect with video.
Astute observation.
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Old 10-01-2006, 10:19 PM
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Will the right wrist stop being level if the left wrist is cocked to 90 degrees or beyond? Is it possible to maintain a level right wrist if you allow the left wrist to cock to 90 degrees or more? Why or why not?

Thanks for the responses.
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