Takes less than two minutes to take up and put down very simple, couldn't be much simpler in fact. Thank you for your interest.
Thanks. I am not an instructor, just an amateur trying to get better. Are there any videos or drills available showing how an individual could use the C-plane to maximum advantage?
Thanks. I am not an instructor, just an amateur trying to get better. Are there any videos or drills available showing how an individual could use the C-plane to maximum advantage?
I will be creating a video when I return in august to demonstrate the many uses of the c-plane. C-plane is for anyone interested in helping others improve or improving themselves. I created the c-plane because I was constantly under plane and it drove me crazy. The c-plane would be used to it's maximum advantage simply by working on all components while standing and swinging on c-plane because all components must be adjusted to be on plane.
A very good way to utilize c-plane is to set it up where you would be hitting balls wether the range or the backyard, foam golf balls or real golf balls. Grab any club and adjust c-plane to your intended plane angle or the clubs lie angle flatly soled. Begin by swinging the club back and forth sliding on the plane pads, do this several times to get a feel for it then place a ball just a few inches outside the plane and actually hit a ball swinging parallel to the plane pads then go back to sliding it on the plane pads and repeat maybe ten practice swings to every swing with a ball. This is a very effective way of translating your new feelings.
C-plane is also extremely useful I have found for knee action and hip action, for those that tend to over slide their hips in the backstroke or downstroke, or their knees shoot out too much. Get that nice knee, hip and foot action like rory.
For over sliding in the backstroke setup very near to the right side of the plane so the plane pads and frame will keep your hip from sliding too much to the right. setup on the far left of c-plane to prevent over sliding in the downstroke learn to bump your left hip slightly and then get it out of the way turning back and behind you to allow the arms to swing freely through to both arms straight.
For those that tend to shoot the knees out too much, setup with your knees a couple inches behind the frame standing in c-plane so that the club will be well outside the plane pads, make practice swings noticing that because of the parallel frame bar you must work your knees slightly toward one another rather than too much toward the ball.
Using c-plane in this way is extremely beneficial to your pivot and as homer tells us
zone 1 (the pivot) is so essential for good golf.
Another advantage of the c-plane is that it gives you parallel lines for your stance line and plane line and you can see the true relationship of your flight line to the plane line, it will tell you immediately if you are pulling or pushing the ball in relation to the plane line. In this way it also trains your eyes for all important aiming, because once you start hitting the ball good you better get that aim right.
C-plane can also be used to pitch and chip through as a large target or to give you visual for starting trajectory by hitting full shots through it.
One should remember that plane angle has no effect on the plane line, it is not likely that a golfer can swing on one plane rather the goal is to make a minimal plane shift while not bending the plane line, the golfer may set up c-plane on elbow plane and at the halfway point in the backstroke the player will likely shift off the plane pads to a slightly steeper plane but the butt of the club should still be pointing at the plane line.
c-plane is not just a swing plane trainer, actually it is an entire swing trainer.
One should remember that plane angle has no effect on the plane line, it is not likely that a golfer can swing on one plane rather the goal is to make a minimal plane shift while not bending the plane line, the golfer may set up c-plane on elbow plane and at the halfway point in the backstroke the player will likely shift off the plane pads to a slightly steeper plane but the butt of the club should still be pointing at the plane line."
Thanks for that detailed reply. I have a general idea of the plane (from the Hogan book), but not exactly sure what I am even trying to do in my swing in regards to trying to stay on one plane (elbow vs. shoulder, vs. clubshaft plane), shifting to a different plane, etc...
Videos would be very helpful, or better yet lessons with an AI who has a cplane to help one use this tool effectively.
Generally the plane you will swing on is dictated by the clubs lie angle, set the club flatly soled on the ground, your startup and backstroke will go backwards upwards and inwards simultaneously, the hands and clubhead should travel up the same line as the clubs intended lie angle to about the halfway point in the swing then it will likely shift up to a slightly steeper plane, I realize a good video is necessary to really demonstrate this I will try to put one up ASAP.
Very impressive. Obviously you guys have thought this thing through for many applications.
If it would help me with the elusive left hip bump and turn, it would be worth it.
Amazing how a combination of the left hip bump and keeping the head behind it can produce a seemingly effortless additional 25 yards on the tee shot. Ill add that keeping that right knee moving on through the impact area, rather than the right foot stuck on the ground, is another key component, for me anyhow. Provided of course you have some hula hula felxibility vs. the Herman Monster/Tin Man look.
Generally the plane you will swing on is dictated by the clubs lie angle, set the club flatly soled on the ground, your startup and backstroke will go backwards upwards and inwards simultaneously, the hands and clubhead should travel up the same line as the clubs intended lie angle to about the halfway point in the swing then it will likely shift up to a slightly steeper plane, I realize a good video is necessary to really demonstrate this I will try to put one up ASAP.
Thanks. So I presume then that if you set the C-plane at the club lie angle so that the head and shaft rest on the plane from start up to the halfway point, then it would be a mistake to try to keep the shaft on the C-plane from halfway point to End (because you are shifting to a steeper plane). That is one of the things I was not clear about, and without your reply I would have just thought that the goal is to keep the shaft on the plane for the entire backswing and downswing.
Also, in the Hogan book I recall he said that the downswing plane is flatter and points a bit right compared to the backswing plane. That is another issue that I am not clear about, as TGM doesn't say that the plane line changes as far as I am aware.
I don't see how the lie angle can have a bearing on a 3d motion, if I set my clubs 6 degrees flat it would likely produce a flat backswing?
Not sure I understand the question, remember it is a general statement. the player can choose to swing on any plane angle regardless of the clubs lie angle, but he may run into problems if his/her plane is too flat or too steep beyond the lie angle of the club because they may hit the ground with the heel or toe before separation, the ideal solution as homer states would be a club a more rounded heel to toe. We have many choices in this game but the goals are the same, straight plane line, flat left wrist, club head lag pressure point, rhythm, balance and a stationary post are the imperatives and essentials of any golf motion with exception of some special shots around the greens regarding the flat left wrist.
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