Accumulator #2 vs. Accumulator #3

[birdie chance]

I am struggling to fully grasp the differences and characteristics of Accumulator #2 and Accum #3.
Spending alot of time with the Yellow Book but perhaps it's something right in front of my eyes that I'm confusing for some reason. Accum #1 and #4 are clear to me I think.
Any advice to help me understand, direction to a good thread here or supplementary descriptions from any member's experience would be greatly appreciated.

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Woody
New York, New York

[Mike O]

Woody-
Do you have the book?

[birdie chance]

Yes, I do have the book.

[Mike O]

Accumulator #2 is wristcock- it's considered a vertical motion- an example might be an old water pump- you just pump the handle up and down- the more motion it travels through the great force can be applied.

Accumulator #3 is turn and roll- the greater the angle between the left arm and the clubshaft - the more space the clubhead travels through and the greater force the Accumulator #3 can apply (everything else being equal). Ever have to use a jack to jack up your car. The more you can get the handle of the jack (left arm) 90 degrees to the arm that attaches to the jack (the clubhaft) the more travel it has and the quicker the jack raises the car. Sometimes you have something in the way - such as the underside of the car- and you have to have the handle of the jack practically in line with the arm that attaches to the jack- then it takes alot of turns to raise the car. That's #3 accumulator.

Part of some confusion may be that the increased wristcock- accumulator #2 - actually could be construed as increasing the #3 accumulator. Not something to get caught up on.

[Delaware Golf]

Accumulator #2 is wristcock- it's considered a vertical motion- an example might be an old water pump- you just pump the handle up and down- the more motion it travels through the great force can be applied.

Accumulator #3 is turn and roll- the greater the angle between the left arm and the clubshaft - the more space the clubhead travels through and the greater force the Accumulator #3 can apply (everything else being equal). Ever have to use a jack to jack up your car. The more you can get the handle of the jack (left arm) 90 degrees to the arm that attaches to the jack (the clubhaft) the more travel it has and the quicker the jack raises the car. Sometimes you have something in the way - such as the underside of the car- and you have to have the handle of the jack practically in line with the arm that attaches to the jack- then it takes alot of turns to raise the car. That's #3 accumulator.

Part of some confusion may be that the increased wristcock- accumulator #2 - actually could be construed as increasing the #3 accumulator. Not something to get caught up on.

Great analogy Mike....

[yodeli]

Part of some confusion may be that the increased wristcock- accumulator #2 - actually could be construed as increasing the #3 accumulator. Not something to get caught up on.

Ok Mike, but how do you combine uncocking of #2 acc. while still maintaining maximum amount of #3 acc. before impact?
As the proper swinging procedure is "uncock (#2) and roll (#3)", maintaining max #3 acc. seems unfeasible?

(corrections in BOLD - see Mike O's following post...)

[Mike O]

Ok Mike, but how do you combine uncocking of #2 acc. while still maintaining maximum amount of #3 acc. before impact?
As the proper swinging procedure is "uncock (#2) and roll (#3)", maintaining max #2 acc. seems unfeasible?

Just popped in- I'll post back later - but could you review your post- you mention maintaining max #2 and then mention maintaining max#3- is that correct or did you say 2 and mean 3 or say 3 and mean 2.

[12 piece bucket]

Ok Mike, but how do you combine uncocking of #2 acc. while still maintaining maximum amount of #3 acc. before impact?
As the proper swinging procedure is "uncock (#2) and roll (#3)", maintaining max #2 acc. seems unfeasible?

The #3 Angle is established when the Left Wrist is LEVEL.

The significance of the LEVEL part is . . . your left wrist should be level at Fix and Impact. If your left wrist is completely Uncocked at impact you got nothing. You want to have some Accumulator left get through the ball. Just like punching somebody. You want to hit them with your arm bent and then extend THROUGH them. You hit 'em with your arm straight at impact and you'll be the one pickin' up toofuses.

Now per Homer Kelley . . . #3 attempts to MAINTAIN its angle. The #3 angle is what you ROLL through impact. Obviously this is all happening as #2 is releasing . . . but not to its full extension. You want Full Lever Extension . . . Maximum Radius after impact not at impact.

[12 piece bucket]

- it's considered a vertical motion- an example might be an old water pump- you just pump the handle up and down- the more motion it travels through the great force can be applied.

Hmmmmmm . . . . where to begin?

[birdie chance]

Mike O thanks for your analogy
that makes sense
Bucket's related expansion added alot to my understanding on how these two accumulators operate.
good stuff
Woody