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Old 05-04-2007, 01:00 AM
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Should one feel that the pivot pulls everything? I have been working on the pivot starting my downswing but then it is overtaken.

I am having a hard time understanding how the pivot could keep on rotating but the right shoulder staying down and back. If the hips and upper body just keep rotating through the swing the right shoulder would move down out toward the plane line and then toward the target right?

Do the hips go then slow down, pulling the shoulders which then slow down and allows the hands and club to over take.

This is what I am currently feeling but the flight seems too high. I feel that I could hit a much more driven looking shot if I feel that I cover the shot with my right side/shoulder.

Could someone please point me in the right direction.

I need help with (axis tilt and throwout) I need to understand them better and help would be nice.

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Old 05-04-2007, 07:20 AM
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Should one feel that the pivot pulls everything? I have been working of the pivot starting my downswing but then it is overtaken.

I am having a hard time understanding how the pivot could keep on rotating but the right shoulder staying down and back. If the hips and upper body just keep rotating through the swing the right shoulder would move down out toward the plane line and then toward the target right?

Do the hips go then slow down, pulling the shoulders which then slow down and allow the hands and club to over take.

This is what I am currently feeling but the flight seems to high. I feel that I could hit a much more driven looking shot if I feel that I cover the shot with my right side/shoulder.

Could someone please point me in the right direction.

I need help with (axis tilt and throwout) I need to understand them better and help would be nice.
"I am having a hard time understanding how the pivot could keep on rotating but the right shoulder staying down and back."
Only if there is something to pull against, which is, of course, "lag"/resistance/heaviness feel.
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The "LAW" creates the "effect", which is the "motion" or "feel", with the "cause", which is the "intent" or "command".
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Old 05-04-2007, 10:17 AM
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Should one feel that the pivot pulls everything? I have been working on the pivot starting my downswing but then it is overtaken.

I am having a hard time understanding how the pivot could keep on rotating but the right shoulder staying down and back. If the hips and upper body just keep rotating through the swing the right shoulder would move down out toward the plane line and then toward the target right?

Do the hips go then slow down, pulling the shoulders which then slow down and allows the hands and club to over take.

This is what I am currently feeling but the flight seems too high. I feel that I could hit a much more driven looking shot if I feel that I cover the shot with my right side/shoulder.

Could someone please point me in the right direction.

I need help with (axis tilt and throwout) I need to understand them better and help would be nice.
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First, check out the HitSwing Video that Lynn posted- one of the first clips and truly needed as a foundation in everyone’s study of TGM.
Second, you misunderstand the right shoulder movement. Back and Down on an INCLINE PLANE. It is not Down then OUT then Through.
It is DOWNOUTTHROUGH.
If I said show me Down, show me OUT, show me THROUGH. The Movement for each one would be the same. When you move on an incline plane- it flows in one direction- DOWNOUTTHROUGH.
The idea of keeping the right shoulder Back and Down is to prevent over the top- pure OUT with no movement on the three dimensional incline plane.

Axis Tilt- I don’t care what anyone says- the FIRST movement is a Hip slide with coordinated and educated Hands. The Hips need to bump before they turn. The hips need to build a lane for the hands. THIS is what keeping the right shoulder BACK and DOWN is.

Check out the video- it is the second link. The first puts you in the Lynn Blake Gallery section with other fog lifting instructional clips.
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Old 05-05-2007, 09:05 AM
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Well put Mike.
I had a conversation with a Pro (nonTGM) about this -he had borrowed the book from me and he couldn't understand how you kept the shoulder back and still manage to look like the photos!
I explained "the gaps"in his reading and basically concluded that if you keep the shoulder back and on plane through the start down waggle (including bump)then not much can go wrong from there(with regards to the shoulder ).
Not as well put as your answer but i do try to keep out of tgm language when discussing these things with outsiders
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