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Old 01-29-2009, 06:48 PM
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Keep my left arm connected to my chest and start rotating the zipper 'over to' my left heel.



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Old 01-29-2009, 11:51 PM
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From the top, I'm trying to pull the clubhead into the back of the ball with my left hand. I've tried a lot of things, but I always end up coming back to this...
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Old 01-30-2009, 11:20 AM
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Down at the Cross Roads.
Here is my two cents (Canadian, 1.6 cents US)

Startdown is "the cross roads of the swing". It is of critical importance to power and direction, physics and geometry. You dont want to take the wrong road here. Fortunately Homer left us some road signs to follow.

A key point for me is that Release and Top are not at the same point in the swing for full powered shots.

So if you're power is fully Accumulated at top say you need to Store it while you Deliver it to the Release point. There are different ways to release , different places where it begins (sweep vs snap etc) but you dont want to fire them off at top for a variety of reasons.

I think that a lot of golfers Release from Top due to a misconception that you have to get back to an (adjusted) address position at impact. I did once anyways. Its like you create these angles going back and then have to get them all back to where they started by the time you hit the ball. This is one of Golfs popular misconceptions, of which there are quite a few. Homer deals with all of them.

Address and Impact are not the same. That is to say that much of these angles, this power that has been Accumulated must be saved for the ball during the impact interval. Only at Both Arms Straight are they fully fired. They start to fire at Release but are not fully fired until Follow Through, Both Arms Straight.

The boxer hits the heavy bag with a bent right elbow and then straightens it versus hitting the bag with a fully extended right arm. Save some thrust for the ball, hitting or swinging. Dont Release from Top.

So Homer had to identify the best ways to Deliver this Stored power from Top to Release without it spilling out or becoming misaligned. This is TGM's Startdown, Homers road sings at the crossroads. You have options.

This is where Im at anyways, guys.

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Old 01-30-2009, 02:49 PM
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Face and Head
Have a very, vivid sense of the base of your plane line. for your chosen baseline to have any relevance however you must know where your clubface is pointing in relation to both the target line and flight line of the ball. So you must have a very clear idea of this at impact fix. It is not an over the top move if you trace a straight plane line, but appear to move OTT in relation to your target line. Example: Into the wind I like to close the clubface in order to reduce the loft (too much shaft lean tends to open the face...then of course if you do not match that degree of forward lean at impact you are going to hit it big left!) Back to my low shot: I still aim the clubface at the target...my body feels like it is aimed way right (but the ball doesn't know!) I then trace a straight plane perpendicular to the clubface. The results is a low-pull straight at the target...blistered! My point is that the plane is better understood in its relationship to the clubface. Aim the face...trace the line with the sweetspot.
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Old 01-30-2009, 04:05 PM
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Hi!
I´ve been on this site for over a year now and thank everyone for helping me understand the golfswing better especially Henning, the swedish ambassador of TGM!
I have been battling with i) - going under plane on the way back and ii)have a strong tendency to throw it OTT on the way down.
2 things have really started to help me with the problem areas
i) the image of keeping my right forearm higher than the left has created greater axis tilt and held the shaft on plane better - whoops... maybe wrong thread!
ii) I bought a CROWBAR 750mm, 2.6 Kg, (biltema for the swedish) fits in the hands excellently and even has a "clubface" feature. One of the best training aids I´ve ever had! I swing the crowbar before (could need some explaining!) I go to the range in order to get the "down" not the "over".
I'd never felt so much down, I feel the underarm throw feeling and the sheer weight of the thing makes an intenser swinging feeling. I don't know but presumably doing a few sets with it would n't hurt ones distance?!
Thanks again for great info
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Old 02-07-2009, 08:14 PM
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Sam Snead/Homer/Tomasello 10-20-E
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From the top, I'm trying to pull the clubhead into the back of the ball with my left hand. I've tried a lot of things, but I always end up coming back to this...
That's Sam Snead's approach and 10-20-E Wrist Throw per Tom Tomasello's instruction of TGM.

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Old 02-08-2009, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Delaware Golf View Post
That's Sam Snead's approach and 10-20-E Wrist Throw per Tom Tomasello's instruction of TGM.

DG
I guess I'm in good company, then. Too bad I don't get the same results.
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Old 02-11-2009, 06:29 PM
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Slight hip bump, elbow re-attaches, keep left hip clearing then either pull hard w/ the left side or hit the crap out of it with my bent rt wrist.

Experimenting w/ both Tommy's Aussie rt arm swing and Brian Gay's swinging pattern. Both are straight, tidy patterns that dont involve a buch of counterfalling, club across the line, javellin throwing, or flipping
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Old 04-03-2009, 10:57 AM
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#4 pp
When swinging I just try to create pressure in the #4 pressure point (left hip slide/leaving my arms behind). This gives me the "stretched out on a rack" feeling yoda talks about in the AG dvds when he discusses the start down waggle.
My hitting stroke is still a work in progress.
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Old 04-03-2009, 02:49 PM
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I start my down swing by falling into my left side with leading hips and a harley move in the right wrist that lays the club off and creates massive lag. I do not try to fire my hips, or my torso, I try to feel as though I hold me hips and torso back as long a possible. All I want to do on the down swing is make a lateral slide and have the right arm fully extended by impact, the rest will take care of it's self.



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