thoughts....decided on a pattern

[BerntR]

I don't see the paradox which makes me think Im not following you Bernt.

OB,

I was doing a final touch on my response to this when I by accident closed the page. Damned keyboard...

I recognize and agree with your description of dual horizontal vs angle hinge. And yes, I do the dual horizontal from time to time. If I really need dependable distance and I don't quite trust the angled hinge I try to crank the gyro and just let it rip. And sometimes with success.

Some of my comments in this thread about the closing action was written in the context of the demo that HK did, with club head on a string. I don't see any possibility of CF driven turn & roll in the human golf stroke, where the face is pointing at the sky before the release for a swinger and out of the plane for a angled hinge swinger or a hitter.

I don't dismiss that the swinger closes the face by simply holding on to the club, but the force that creates the turn & roll is still delivered by the golfer's hands.

[BerntR]

Hogan did not use manipulated hands swinging he angled hinges sometimes most times not

I can't recall ever seeing footage of Hogan where there's no layback after impact. Nor have I seen footage where he displays the typical swinger's finish swivel. And his hands & club face alignment just before the release has written "don't let the toe outrace the heel" written all over.

You need to put up some serious evidence to convince me that Hogan used a horizontal hinge most of the time.

[comrade]

http://www.hititlonger.com/images/up...HandAction.jpg

[HungryBear]

How do U know Hogan used angled hinge?

hb

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[whip]

The burden of proof is on u sir

[HungryBear]

How do U know Hogan used angled hinge?

hb

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[whip]

OB,
I don't dismiss that the swinger closes the face by simply holding on to the club, but the force that creates the turn & roll is still delivered by the golfer's hands.

Wrong. it is cf acting on the clubface because cf pulls objects in line and on plane with their cog this what the club is doing seeking it's cog and in so doing it closes as it seeks it

The nature of a sequenced release as dictated by cf longitudinal acceleration the club passively switches ends rotates over

[whip]

No one "finish swivels" unless the shaft is dead on plane that is what he finish swivel is no one finishes that way

[BerntR]

Wrong. it is cf acting on the clubface because cf pulls objects in line and on plane with their cog this what the club is doing seeking it's cog and in so doing it closes as it seeks it

The nature of a sequenced release as dictated by cf longitudinal acceleration the club passively switches ends rotates over

I wasn't talking to you. I don't think you know what CF is and does. Besides, opinions stated as facts without any substantial backup is a turnoff for me.

Show us the evidence that Hogan used horizontal hinge most of the time. Then we have something to talk about.

[HungryBear]

The burden of proof is on u sir

Had we just LOOKED up one subject heading we would have a much shorter and less tedious thread.

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/thread8672.html

Read it with care- with particular attention to #6

HB