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Old 05-08-2012, 03:38 PM
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IC, you don't have to be an engineer to see that if you make a straight line hand effort towards Impact Fix, that you won't be Hitting down, but instead will be steering towards the target, because the hands aren't(shouldn't) be traveling down plane at impact, but rather up and in. You must drive PP#3 towards a suitable point on the plane line from the top before release.
What about when Yoda says "the hands have to go down!" Hmmm is that why my ball flight is so frackn high and my distance is so puny?

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Old 05-08-2012, 03:44 PM
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This seems to help a bit...no uncocking just roll?


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Having your Left Wrist Uncocked at Impact will lead to Clubhead Thowaway and toe deep divots. When the golfer, during Release and Impact, continues to Uncock the Left Wrist past the Level condition (4-B-1) rather then using the roll of the Hand, Level Left Wrist and #3 Accumulator with it’s Rhythm thru Impact to Follow-Through (2-P), we are looking at Steering (3-F-7-A); a Horizontal Wrist Motion, and a Bent Left Wrist. So the Left Wrist is not only Bent (which makes the ball go left), but also Uncocked giving excessive toe down divots and a nice “soft” Impact. Centrifugal Acceleration is lost.

Educated Hands understand that the Perpendicular (Vertical) Left Wrist Uncocking Motion is a Clubhead Motion and the Roll is a Hand Motion whether Simultaneous (Hitting) or Sequenced (Swinging) controls the Clubface. Both must be differentiated. Look at the picture of the Golfer’s Flail in 2-K#4 and #5. Let it incubate into the coconut. In fact, I built my own Flail per Yoda’s recommendation. It does not allow Horizontal Wrist Motion. Mine is bolted so that the swingle (club) can not go past the Level condition. Per 4-D-0, when the Wrist Motion throws the Clubface at the ball there will be Clubhead Throwaway (unless using 10-2-D). Having a fully Uncocked Left Wrist at Impact also may zero out the #3 Accumulator giving up almost all Transfer Power.

For the Right Forearm Flying Wedge and its Level Wrist to be on Plane the Right Elbow must be bent and on Plane (not run out of Right Arm). We are then able to trace our Plane Line with our Right Forearm and #3 Pressure Point. All are a by-product of the Right Shoulder being Plane due to proper Waist Bend, Hip Shift; Axis Tilt. All return to their Impact Fix location. If the Right Elbow is straight and high and the Right Shoulder is off Plane at this point, all bets are off.
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Old 05-08-2012, 03:58 PM
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Where did AIMING POINT go?
I did say "Could Use much discussion."

Think that is lost, Too bad.

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Old 05-08-2012, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by innercityteacher View Post
What about when Yoda says "the hands have to go down!" Hmmm is that why my ball flight is so frackn high and my distance is so puny?

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What that's about is good advice! PP#3 is driven down plane toward the Aiming Point, which is what I tried, but apparently failed, to convey above.

Steering could cause those things and worse.
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Old 05-08-2012, 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by innercityteacher View Post
This seems to help a bit...no uncocking just roll?
IC, "no uncocking", seriously???? To help what? We're talking about Aiming Point.
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Old 05-08-2012, 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by HungryBear View Post
I did say "Could Use much discussion."

Think that is lost, Too bad.

hb
hb, I thought we were discussing it - as I said above, it's a point on the plane line(usually at or near the ball location) at which you direct PP#3 with the pivot(or right tricep) from the top.

The idea is to guarantee Imperative #3, A straight Plane Line. From the top, the LFW along with the sweetspot, rotated into it, and, ideally, the Right Shoulder also on the plane of the LFW, is driven by the Right Shoulder toward the Aiming Point on the Plane Line. Down to release of #2, both PP#3 and the sweetspot are heading for the Aiming Point. Sometime after The left wrist starts uncocking, Throwout kicks in, at which point the hands appear to the golfer to be arcing to the left, as the LFW moves off plane with the left shoulder moving up and back. At that point, a line from PP#3 through the sweetspot, is still tracing the Plane Line. Once Throwout has kicked in and the LFW is moving off plane, the Aiming Point's purpose has been fulfilled.

But some, forgetting about PA#3, apparently think driving PP#3 at a point on the Plane Line will cause the hands to go flying out over the plane line.
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Old 05-08-2012, 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by MizunoJoe View Post
because the hands aren't(shouldn't) be traveling down plane at impact, but rather up and in.
Say it ain't so Joe! This is not correct and goes against one of the key concepts of the golfing machine and a 3dimensional impact. The hands and clubhead move DOWN and OUT through an even past impact all the way to low point only then do they begin to move up even in the follow through the thrust direction is still down plane.
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Old 05-08-2012, 10:55 PM
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Say it ain't so Joe! This is not correct and goes against one of the key concepts of the golfing machine and a 3dimensional impact. The hands and clubhead move DOWN and OUT through an even past impact all the way to low point only then do they begin to move up even in the follow through the thrust direction is still down plane.
It ain't so only if you don't have enough club head lag to get your hands to impact fix before the club head gets to the ball or else you're playing the ball off your right toe. If the club head is properly lagged, it will still be traveling down and out while the hands are moving up and in.
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Old 05-09-2012, 01:47 AM
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mmm no, the hands still go down and out
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Old 05-09-2012, 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by MizunoJoe View Post
IC, "no uncocking", seriously???? To help what? We're talking about Aiming Point.
My mistake.

For the some TGM students and for me, I know/suspect it is rather confusing to get to IMpact Fix, be able to shape shots dependably and control the target line, but lack power consistently.

I was hoping that perhaps because of the title of this thread, I might get help understanding why I am losing power through understanding the aiming point concept which I have read but cannot picture. Obviously, I showed my lack of understanding by asking a question which tends to happen with real questons. I won't stop asking sadly, I guess, for some of you.

Perhaps the Lyme disease meds are still clouding me up. But so what?

I answer hundreds of stupid questions a day, with more grace than shown here. I have discovered over the last couple of years that a lot of times students just need the encouragement to know they are getting warmer so they can discover the insight if they keep focusing on a certain concept. But that's my business and my concern as a professional teacher.

Thinking "win-win" is really helpful on an electronic posting site, I believe. Sometimes, really dumb questions can stimulate new trains of thought and new ideas. Otherwise, no one writes and no one answers except those that "know everything."

Lynn, happily, is a really good teacher and knows a lot.

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