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Old 05-03-2009, 03:58 PM
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Ok, these may be tough questions. But answering will increase your post count so don’t be shy. Answering these may require that our step brothers (the Hitters) join in. Please be nice to them.

I just can’t seem to sort it all out. I’m usually missing one or two key points.

Is this true?
1. I’m thinking that all Hitters using a Punch Elbow Position, use an Elbow Plane from release. Is this true?

2. Second, all clubs in your bag have different lie angles. A Swinger using a Hands Controlled Pivot procedure will almost automatically adjust Plane Angles steeper for shorter clubs and shallower for longer clubs (it may only be a very small amount). Doing so will allow the use of a single Ball location and yet allow different forward shaft Lean. The shorter clubs have a steeper plane and more shaft lean than longer clubs which is accommodated by adjusting Zone 1 & 2 impact alignments in addition to right elbow location (Plane Angle) at the start of release. Is any of this True?

3. But a Hitter, using the Punch Elbow Position, cannot adjust the Swing Plane (Sweetspot plane) (if question #1 was true). Because right elbow alignments are almost identical for every club, then a single ball location will require that all clubs use the same degree of forward shaft lean. If that’s true, then the Hitter in this example could use different ball locations to adjust for different shaft leans. It wouldn’t be by much. Is any of this true?

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Old 05-04-2009, 12:46 PM
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Ok, these may be tough questions. But answering will increase your post count so don’t be shy. Answering these may require that our step brothers (the Hitters) join in. Please be nice to them.

I just can’t seem to sort it all out. I’m usually missing one or two key points.

Is this true?
1. I’m thinking that all Hitters using a Punch Elbow Position, use an Elbow Plane from release. Is this true?

2. Second, all clubs in your bag have different lie angles. A Swinger using a Hands Controlled Pivot procedure will almost automatically adjust Plane Angles steeper for shorter clubs and shallower for longer clubs (it may only be a very small amount). Doing so will allow the use of a single Ball location and yet allow different forward shaft Lean. The shorter clubs have a steeper plane and more shaft lean than longer clubs which is accommodated by adjusting Zone 1 & 2 impact alignments in addition to right elbow location (Plane Angle) at the start of release. Is any of this True?

3. But a Hitter, using the Punch Elbow Position, cannot adjust the Swing Plane (Sweetspot plane) (if question #1 was true). Because right elbow alignments are almost identical for every club, then a single ball location will require that all clubs use the same degree of forward shaft lean. If that’s true, then the Hitter in this example could use different ball locations to adjust for different shaft leans. It wouldn’t be by much. Is any of this true?

Thank you.
Now that I understand the Geometry of golf because of this mornings enlightenment (about 4:00am), I can tell you that the answer to all three questons is Yes.

Hitters Change Ball location which controls Right Wrist Bend, which controls clubshaft lean.

Swingers change Plane Angle to change the Right Wrist Bend and keep ball location the same for all strokes.



Now I know why Hitters Hook and Swingers Fade.

Whoa, this stuff is easy.
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