Right elbow

[labrador]

Since the bending of the right elbow, according to TT, causes cocking of the left wrist , a larger bending of the elbow would cock the left wrist even more, thereby increasing the potential power in the downswing. However, does the decreased width with a right elbow bend larger than 90 degrees in the backstroke and the longer way(time) to a straight right arm , in reality decrease the power?

[6bmike]

Since the bending of the right elbow, according to TT, causes cocking of the left wrist , a larger bending of the elbow would cock the left wrist even more, thereby increasing the potential power in the downswing. However, does the decreased width with a right elbow bend larger than 90 degrees in the backstroke and the longer way(time) to a straight right arm , in reality decrease the power?

According to Homer Kelley the bending of the right elbow cocks the left wrist, this is correct but a larger bending adds nothing. It breaks down structure. The wrist cock angle is not extreme, just a few inches from Level to Cocked. No over bending of the right elbow is going to increaase that. This is more of a Hitter's procedure- muscle bend and cock. A swinger's right elbow still bends and cocks the LW but with more momentum than simply muscle action.

It is the turning power of the pivot, the gyro crank of the right shoulder thrust that allows CF to uncock the left wrist that supplies power- not the wrist angle. (Swinger)

[labrador]

Many thanks for Your answer, reliable 6bmike! It solves the dilemma between width and sharp angles for me!

[12 piece bucket]

Acording to Homer . . . the only way to FEEL the right elbow is IN THE RIGHT ELBOW . . . not in the muscles. So if you are going under plane . . . you have FEEL AS IF your right elbow is cocking UP.

[6bmike]

Many thanks for Your answer, reliable 6bmike! It solves the dilemma between width and sharp angles for me!

remember extensor action- it folds the right arm at the elbow because the left arm "leash."

It's one heck of a machine !

[nuke99]

Right elbow are never truly passive because of extensor action

[6bmike]

Right elbow are never truly passive because of extensor action

Not Elbow but Right Triceps can never be totally "passive." Which moves the elbow, of course.

Extensor Action is a straightline pull on the left arm- it doesn't move the left arm but does provide support to the left wrist cock. On the downstroke thru PP3 it pulls in a straightline both the left arm and shaft. Its direction is always below the Plane. This effect on the clubshaft can also be used to flatten the left wrist in line with the shaft on the take-away, too.

[nuke99]

Not Elbow but Right Triceps can never be totally "passive."

Extensor Action is a straightline pull on the left arm- it doesn't move the left arm but does provide support to the left wrist cock. On the downstroke thru PP3 it pulls in a straightline both the left arm and shaft. Its direction is always below the Plane. This effect on the clubshaft can also be used to flatten the left wrist in line with the shaft on the take-away, too.

ACK.. yeah tricep

[6bmike]

ACK.. yeah tricep

Which of course folds or straightens the elbow. D'uh. Silly me.

I got back on to add that to my last post but you beat me to it.

[nuke99]

But the hugest difference is already written in the chapter called extensor action. Its right there for us to read , digest and understand.

Stick that chapter to our forehead and basically all this confusion about right forearm ( Ala TT and DG), and Passive/active( extensor action) would just go away. One of the key is whether the extensor action is applied to pressure point 1 or 3 is also huge, often demonstrated by Lynn. A huge clue to work on I'd say

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