LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - Tomasello Argument - Final Comment Thread: Tomasello Argument - Final Comment View Single Post #22 03-06-2007, 02:26 PM Bigwill Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Belleville, MI Posts: 254 Originally Posted by 6bmike I'll believe HOMER. I do believe we are talking about the DOWNSWING, right? The first part of the 10-15-B is about the delayed hip motion on the Take-Up. "Hip Slide starts the down swing" "Use the Turning Hip to carry the Right Elbow" "use the Sliding Hip to carry the Right Elbow" and in 10-15-B- [after back swing] "The Hips then take over and lead and power the Downstroke Shoulder Turn. Nowhere in 10-15-B does it give the notion that the hips respond to the right arm moving on the DOWNSWING. Doesn't TT show the right arm pulling down straight down (re-connect) to the body's side without a hip action on the start down? Certainly without a slide. Is he really using 10-15-C? Unfortunately, I think that this is a debate that can go around in circles, because there is no differentiation between the actual sequence of events, and the intent of the individual. In other words, many quality athletic motions, including the golf swing, start from the ground up, sequencing through the knees, hips, trunk, shoulders, arms, and hands. However, even though the swing is starting from the ground up, the intent of the golfer may be to move the hands/right shoulder/right forearm/left arm/whatever first, you know? In which case, both sides of the argument could be argued, with no resolution, because one is talking about feel, and one is talking about real, the irony being that both are right (in the proper context). Does that make sense? Bigwill View Public Profile Send a private message to Bigwill Find all posts by Bigwill